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==Suggested Section==
''Note: This applies for all abilities.''  
''Note: This applies for all abilities.''  
I think it would be a good idea if we had an extra section like: '''Out of Battle''' or something similar that is reworded. Then we could seperate the text instead of having a large block to read. [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 17:43, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
I think it would be a good idea if we had an extra section like: '''Out of Battle''' or something similar that is reworded. Then we could seperate the text instead of having a large block to read. [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 17:43, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


==Shadow Force==
No Guard eliminates the immunity granted by Shadow Force. [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 16:04, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
No Guard eliminates the immunity granted by Shadow Force. [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 16:04, 29 September 2008 (UTC)


Does this ability eliminate {{t|Ghost|immunities}}?
==Immunities==
 
Does this ability eliminate {{t|Ghost|immunities}}? {{unsigned|Sk8torchic}}
== OHKO ==


==OHKO==
Does no Guard allow OHKO attacks to hit the opponent every time? Obviously there's currently no way to have this happen, but if a Machamp with no guard knew sheer cold, could it theoretically always hit the opponent?--[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] 21:51, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
Does no Guard allow OHKO attacks to hit the opponent every time? Obviously there's currently no way to have this happen, but if a Machamp with no guard knew sheer cold, could it theoretically always hit the opponent?--[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] 21:51, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
:Provided the other conditions are met (levels or speed or whatever), then I see no theoretical problem. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 21:59, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
:Provided the other conditions are met (levels or speed or whatever), then I see no theoretical problem. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 21:59, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
::Yeah, it does. (provided that the user's level is equal to or higher than the target's) Remember, No Guard works oppositely, too&mdash;Moves used by the opponent will always hit as well.--'''Dark''' [[Mask of Ice|<font color="black">'''ICE'''</font>]] <small>(User:Cold)<sup>([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]])</sup></small> 17:58, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
::Yeah, it does. (provided that the user's level is equal to or higher than the target's) Remember, No Guard works oppositely, too&mdash;Moves used by the opponent will always hit as well.--'''Dark''' [[Mask of Ice|<font color="black">'''ICE'''</font>]] <small>(User:Cold)<sup>([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]])</sup></small> 17:58, 15 September 2009 (UTC)


== In-Battle Effects post-Diamond/Pearl ==
==In-Battle Effects post-Diamond/Pearl==
 
''This does not happen anymore in Platinum or HeartGold/SoulSilver. ''
''This does not happen anymore in Platinum or HeartGold/SoulSilver. ''


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I'm not sure if it was intended or not, but in D/P in Battle Tower double battles, No Guard Earthquake will hit semi-invulnerable partners, but not levitating partners. I noticed it and would like someone to experiment with that for confirmation    WeavilePwns 02:04, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
I'm not sure if it was intended or not, but in D/P in Battle Tower double battles, No Guard Earthquake will hit semi-invulnerable partners, but not levitating partners. I noticed it and would like someone to experiment with that for confirmation    WeavilePwns 02:04, 16 April 2010 (UTC)


== Evasion Moves ==
==Evasion Moves==
 
Will a Pokemon with No Guard always hit a Pokemon who has used Double Team or Sand-Attack? {{unsigned|Jdthebud}}
Will a Pokemon with No Guard always hit a Pokemon who has used Double Team or Sand-Attack? {{unsigned|Jdthebud}}
:Always hit means always hit this ability doesn't change accuracy it simply makes the moves always hit &mdash;[[User:Lord mada|Mada-sama]] <small>([[User talk:Lord mada|Talk to me!]])</small>&mdash; 09:55, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
:Always hit means always hit this ability doesn't change accuracy it simply makes the moves always hit &mdash;[[User:Lord mada|Mada-sama]] <small>([[User talk:Lord mada|Talk to me!]])</small>&mdash; 09:55, 19 January 2011 (UTC)


== Trivia? ==
==Trivia?==
 
How about some trivia for this ability?
How about some trivia for this ability?


Here's my contribution: If No Guard is in effect, an odd paradoxical scenario emerges in which a Pokémon can use Dig to hit a Pokémon that is currently Flying. (Video proof [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yc74oLM10o here]) [[User:Daltonlaffs|Daltonlaffs]] 23:28, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Here's my contribution: If No Guard is in effect, an odd paradoxical scenario emerges in which a Pokémon can use Dig to hit a Pokémon that is currently Flying. (Video proof [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yc74oLM10o here]) [[User:Daltonlaffs|Daltonlaffs]] 23:28, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
==Focus Punch?==
Will this ability always ensure that Focus Punch will hit, even if the Pokemon was hit before using it? {{unsigned|ipodboqi}}
:Don't know when exactly this question is from since it's unsigned, but: I would assume not. Being hit before Focus Punch doesn't make the move miss; it makes the user flinch. A Pokémon with No Guard can still flinch no matter what causes it. —[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 21:09, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
== No Guard check for OHKO moves ==
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/thread/31517964/
According to 4chan, No Guard no longer effects OHKO moves, can anyone check this for Gen VII? [[User:Trainer Yusuf|Trainer Yusuf]] ([[User talk:Trainer Yusuf|talk]]) 02:16, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 02:31, 25 January 2017

Suggested Section

Note: This applies for all abilities. I think it would be a good idea if we had an extra section like: Out of Battle or something similar that is reworded. Then we could seperate the text instead of having a large block to read. Tesh 17:43, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Shadow Force

No Guard eliminates the immunity granted by Shadow Force. Diachronos 16:04, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Immunities

Does this ability eliminate immunities? - unsigned comment from Sk8torchic (talkcontribs)

OHKO

Does no Guard allow OHKO attacks to hit the opponent every time? Obviously there's currently no way to have this happen, but if a Machamp with no guard knew sheer cold, could it theoretically always hit the opponent?--Skaisdead 21:51, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Provided the other conditions are met (levels or speed or whatever), then I see no theoretical problem. —darklordtrom 21:59, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, it does. (provided that the user's level is equal to or higher than the target's) Remember, No Guard works oppositely, too—Moves used by the opponent will always hit as well.--Dark ICE (User:Cold)(page, talk) 17:58, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

In-Battle Effects post-Diamond/Pearl

This does not happen anymore in Platinum or HeartGold/SoulSilver.

What, exactly, doesn't happen anymore? Does No Guard always break through Protect/Detect, or does it never do so? Starscream 18:42, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

No Guard moves will not bypass protect post-D/P, unless it's Feint

Glitch?

I'm not sure if it was intended or not, but in D/P in Battle Tower double battles, No Guard Earthquake will hit semi-invulnerable partners, but not levitating partners. I noticed it and would like someone to experiment with that for confirmation WeavilePwns 02:04, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Evasion Moves

Will a Pokemon with No Guard always hit a Pokemon who has used Double Team or Sand-Attack? - unsigned comment from Jdthebud (talkcontribs)

Always hit means always hit this ability doesn't change accuracy it simply makes the moves always hit —Mada-sama (Talk to me!)— 09:55, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Trivia?

How about some trivia for this ability?

Here's my contribution: If No Guard is in effect, an odd paradoxical scenario emerges in which a Pokémon can use Dig to hit a Pokémon that is currently Flying. (Video proof here) Daltonlaffs 23:28, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Focus Punch?

Will this ability always ensure that Focus Punch will hit, even if the Pokemon was hit before using it? - unsigned comment from ipodboqi (talkcontribs)

Don't know when exactly this question is from since it's unsigned, but: I would assume not. Being hit before Focus Punch doesn't make the move miss; it makes the user flinch. A Pokémon with No Guard can still flinch no matter what causes it. —AndyPKMN (talk) 21:09, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

No Guard check for OHKO moves

https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/thread/31517964/

According to 4chan, No Guard no longer effects OHKO moves, can anyone check this for Gen VII? Trainer Yusuf (talk) 02:16, 25 January 2017 (UTC)