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:::https://youtu.be/RHS0DjTw5ho?t=73 Can anyone read Japanese? [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 16:17, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
:::https://youtu.be/RHS0DjTw5ho?t=73 Can anyone read Japanese? [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 16:17, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
::::It's actually Chinese, but basically Comatose stopped Thunder Wave from working, perfectly according to the information we've been given before.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 16:33, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
::::It's actually Chinese, but basically Comatose stopped Thunder Wave from working, perfectly according to the information we've been given before.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 16:33, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
:::::FYI, basically the dialogue is ''Electabuzz uses  Thunder Wave!'' (Orange: Komala's Comatose) ''it seems to have no effect on the wild Komala'' -- <span style="border:3px solid #78c850; border-top-left-radius:4ex; padding:0px 12px 3px 12px; border-bottom-right-radius:4ex">&nbsp;[[User:Tsanger|<font color="#E34234">Tsanger</font>]] | [[User talk:Tsanger|<font color="#00CCFF">留言</font>]]&nbsp;</span> 17:25, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
::::::Can you determine what the text about Komala's attack said? It looked like a multi-page thing, which made me wonder if Komala used Sleep Talk and then whatever the physical attack was. [[User:Betawolf33|Betawolf33]] ([[User talk:Betawolf33|talk]]) 22:26, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
:::::::The text I translated is from 1:35 - 1:38. Which bit (min:sec) do you want translating...If you are referring to 1:39, the text is ''The wild Komala uses 摔打'', we are currently unsure if it is a new move or an old move renamed (like {{m|Dragon Breath}}), and will have to wait for the Japanese version of the clip. -- <span style="border:3px solid #78c850; border-top-left-radius:4ex; padding:0px 12px 3px 12px; border-bottom-right-radius:4ex">&nbsp;[[User:Tsanger|<font color="#E34234">Tsanger</font>]] | [[User talk:Tsanger|<font color="#00CCFF">留言</font>]]&nbsp;</span> 02:29, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
==AI Glitch/Oversight?==
Recently, Comatose has been causing problems in the Battle Tree with the CPU AIs, where the CPUs have been not noticing the ability and repetitively attempting to inflict status conditions on the Pokémon with Comatose, despite not having any effect. Would this be considered a glitch, and would it be worthy of putting it in a Trivia section for this ability? [[User:Bulldogs1234869|Bulldogs1234869]] ([[User talk:Bulldogs1234869|talk]]) 20:03, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
:Yes, this [[Talk:List of glitches in Generation VII#AI acting weird against Komala with Comatose|has been noticed before]]. I think it might be worth a mention in the trivia section. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 05:24, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
== Facade ==
How does the ability interact with Facade?
Does it double the move's BP or it isn't treated as having a status condition in this case?
[[User:ExLight|ExLight]] ([[User talk:ExLight|talk]]) 19:44, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
:It does not. However, since regular sleep doesn't affect Facade's power either, there's no reason to expect Comatose to boost its power either, so I don't think it needs to be explicitly noted on this page. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 08:16, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
== Dream Ball ==
Has anybody confirmed if the Dream Ball's multiplier is affected by Comatose? {{unsigned|AsparagusEduardo}}
:Not possible to test; Komala isn't in Sword or Shield when the mechanic was introduced. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 19:22, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
:According to Anubis in [https://twitter.com/Sibuna_Switch/status/1549938826772205569 this post right here], it indeed does apply it, for instance if a Pokémon is hacked to have the Ability. [[User:Awesomelink234|Awesomelink234]] ([[User talk:Awesomelink234|talk]]) 17:03, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
== Status catch rate boost ==
Has it been confirmed if this Ability applies the 2.5x catching boost normally associated with sleep and freeze? [[User:Awesomelink234|Awesomelink234]] ([[User talk:Awesomelink234|talk]]) 17:04, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 17:04, 1 September 2022

Effect

Currently, this page's description of the ability is "Comatose prevents the Pokémon with this Ability from being afflicted by any status condition except sleep," which suggests it can fall asleep or wake up from sleep, but is not affected by other status conditions even if it is currently awake. I was wondering if this should be changed based on the description on the official website, which seems to imply that the ability makes it maintain the sleep condition constantly (and thus, it can't be afflicted with other status conditions because it can't wake up from the sleep condition in the first place). Am I misreading this, or should the page be changed? --AndyPKMN (talk) 21:02, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

This Ability keeps it perpetually in a drowsing state, which prevents it from getting any other status conditions.
Being Drowsy doesn't mean being actually asleep. Unowninator (talk) 21:09, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
If Komala is asleep, it wouldn't usually be able to attack. It's extremely unclear how this Ability will play out in the game given all the fluff on the official site about Komala and Comatose. We'll just have to wait and see what there is to see. Tiddlywinks (talk) 21:15, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
https://youtu.be/RHS0DjTw5ho?t=73 Can anyone read Japanese? Unowninator (talk) 16:17, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
It's actually Chinese, but basically Comatose stopped Thunder Wave from working, perfectly according to the information we've been given before.--Den Zen 16:33, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
FYI, basically the dialogue is Electabuzz uses Thunder Wave! (Orange: Komala's Comatose) it seems to have no effect on the wild Komala --  Tsanger | 留言  17:25, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
Can you determine what the text about Komala's attack said? It looked like a multi-page thing, which made me wonder if Komala used Sleep Talk and then whatever the physical attack was. Betawolf33 (talk) 22:26, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
The text I translated is from 1:35 - 1:38. Which bit (min:sec) do you want translating...If you are referring to 1:39, the text is The wild Komala uses 摔打, we are currently unsure if it is a new move or an old move renamed (like Dragon Breath), and will have to wait for the Japanese version of the clip. --  Tsanger | 留言  02:29, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

AI Glitch/Oversight?

Recently, Comatose has been causing problems in the Battle Tree with the CPU AIs, where the CPUs have been not noticing the ability and repetitively attempting to inflict status conditions on the Pokémon with Comatose, despite not having any effect. Would this be considered a glitch, and would it be worthy of putting it in a Trivia section for this ability? Bulldogs1234869 (talk) 20:03, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

Yes, this has been noticed before. I think it might be worth a mention in the trivia section. --SnorlaxMonster 05:24, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

Facade

How does the ability interact with Facade? Does it double the move's BP or it isn't treated as having a status condition in this case?

ExLight (talk) 19:44, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

It does not. However, since regular sleep doesn't affect Facade's power either, there's no reason to expect Comatose to boost its power either, so I don't think it needs to be explicitly noted on this page. --SnorlaxMonster 08:16, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Dream Ball

Has anybody confirmed if the Dream Ball's multiplier is affected by Comatose? - unsigned comment from AsparagusEduardo (talkcontribs)

Not possible to test; Komala isn't in Sword or Shield when the mechanic was introduced. ¿¡Unowninator?! (talk) 19:22, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
According to Anubis in this post right here, it indeed does apply it, for instance if a Pokémon is hacked to have the Ability. Awesomelink234 (talk) 17:03, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

Status catch rate boost

Has it been confirmed if this Ability applies the 2.5x catching boost normally associated with sleep and freeze? Awesomelink234 (talk) 17:04, 1 September 2022 (UTC)