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:::However, as Blow indirectly said, Psycho Break is differs from EQ by damaging target using its defense.----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#BF0B17">DENNOU</font>]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#1250A6">ZENSHI</font>]] 12:13, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
:::However, as Blow indirectly said, Psycho Break is differs from EQ by damaging target using its defense.----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#BF0B17">DENNOU</font>]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#1250A6">ZENSHI</font>]] 12:13, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
:::Also, I believe Mirror Coat and Counter are a special case, because both are counter moves, being the first for Special moves and the second for Physical moves. They could create a Physical move that counter Special moves (or vice-versa), but I think it's natural to use a Special move to counter a Special move. Finally, look at the flavor text for Mirror Coat and Counter, they're pretty much the same. Usually, move variations share some kind of pattern in their flavor text, which reflects in their base power, category and target. --[[User:Blow|<span style="color:blue">Blow</span>]] '''([[User talk:Blow|<span style="color:green">話す</span>]])''' 15:29, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
:::Also, I believe Mirror Coat and Counter are a special case, because both are counter moves, being the first for Special moves and the second for Physical moves. They could create a Physical move that counter Special moves (or vice-versa), but I think it's natural to use a Special move to counter a Special move. Finally, look at the flavor text for Mirror Coat and Counter, they're pretty much the same. Usually, move variations share some kind of pattern in their flavor text, which reflects in their base power, category and target. --[[User:Blow|<span style="color:blue">Blow</span>]] '''([[User talk:Blow|<span style="color:green">話す</span>]])''' 15:29, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
::::Sure, bad example from me, a lot of [[move variations]] differ in categories, another example being [[One-hit knockout moves]]. But I agree on the Target being different :) [[User:U2kheim|U2kheim]] 00:29, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
== Psyshock vs. Psystrike ==
Is it worth noting that the non-signature Psychic-type move {{m|Psyshock}} is nearly identical to Psystrike--other than the base power? Even the flavor text is the same. I had to recheck my Black copy when I saw Psystrike's flavor text to make sure my game wasn't glitched or something. [[User:Phantomjunkie|<span style="color:red">Phantom</span>]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|<span style="color:black">Junkie</span>]] 05:53, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
== Image ==
Why the Gen VIII image is Clefairy using the using the move? Isn't it Mewtwo's signature move? LaprasLaplace 12:17, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
:Metronome and Mimic are moves that very much exist [[User:Iluvchess|Iluvchess]] ([[User talk:Iluvchess|talk]]) 17:39, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
::The game images should ideally depict the Pokemon that is able to learn the move, not a Pokemon using the move via Metronome or Mimic. So yes, the image should be changed.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 06:16, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

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Isn't this a move variation of Earthquake? U2kheim 00:35, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Nope. They differ in category and target. --Blow (話す) 02:40, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
Ah, OK I see, but the category may still differ even though it's a move variation; For example Mirror Coat and Counter :) U2kheim 12:01, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
However, as Blow indirectly said, Psycho Break is differs from EQ by damaging target using its defense.----無限の知性DENNOUZENSHI 12:13, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
Also, I believe Mirror Coat and Counter are a special case, because both are counter moves, being the first for Special moves and the second for Physical moves. They could create a Physical move that counter Special moves (or vice-versa), but I think it's natural to use a Special move to counter a Special move. Finally, look at the flavor text for Mirror Coat and Counter, they're pretty much the same. Usually, move variations share some kind of pattern in their flavor text, which reflects in their base power, category and target. --Blow (話す) 15:29, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
Sure, bad example from me, a lot of move variations differ in categories, another example being One-hit knockout moves. But I agree on the Target being different :) U2kheim 00:29, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Psyshock vs. Psystrike

Is it worth noting that the non-signature Psychic-type move Psyshock is nearly identical to Psystrike--other than the base power? Even the flavor text is the same. I had to recheck my Black copy when I saw Psystrike's flavor text to make sure my game wasn't glitched or something. PhantomJunkie 05:53, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Image

Why the Gen VIII image is Clefairy using the using the move? Isn't it Mewtwo's signature move? LaprasLaplace 12:17, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Metronome and Mimic are moves that very much exist Iluvchess (talk) 17:39, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
The game images should ideally depict the Pokemon that is able to learn the move, not a Pokemon using the move via Metronome or Mimic. So yes, the image should be changed.--ForceFire 06:16, 24 September 2020 (UTC)