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Inspiration from France

I had the thought that, since the largest city in Karosu, Miare City is most likely based on Paris, the entire region of Karosu could be based on France. I started looking at the shape of France and I noticed it has a somewhat similar shape to Karosu. France has 5 major corners (arguably 6 if you want to count the southernmost corner) and Karosu is shaped like a 5 pointed star. The thing that is especially similar about the geography is the peninsula in the west. Both Karosu and France have a prominent peninsula in the west of the country/region. Anyone think these similarities are noteworthy? Here is a picture of France and Karosu side by side so you can see what I mean:

Karosu.png france.jpg --Alex726(TALK) 18:42, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
The article already mentions that the region is likely based on France. However, this wording is used because we haven't seen a complete image of the entire region. We don't know if it would be solely based on France. --HoennMaster 18:49, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
Oops, I thought I read the entire article. That's embarrassing. --Alex726(TALK) 18:52, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Possible Japan Basis

If you look at Japan you can see a landmass that looks a lot like Kalos Pokemonworld.png

Kalos XY.png

The Kalos landmass while based on europe also seems to take the shape of the Japanese Island of Shinkoku Shinkoku also looks like a five pointed star and the mountains at to the south and east of Kalos look like the shoreline of Shinkoku - unsigned comment from ShadowPikachu126 (talkcontribs)

Probably a coincidence. Chomper4 (talk) 02:40, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Coincidence. Everything about Kalos points to France. Ataro (talk) 02:44, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

British Inspiration

If you look to the far left of the region you can clearly see Stonehenge. This shows Britain was an inspiration as well and points towards Kalos drawing on multiple European countries and not just France - although admittedly France heavily referenced. Also the islands at the top of the country are most likely meant to be the Channel Islands, which are British as well. (SuperStanMan (talk) 18:22, 15 May 2013 (UTC))

Megalithic structures can be found all over Western Europe, including Bretagne (LOTS of them), which is the area on which that part the region is geographically based on. Արիանո 18:53, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
Indeed, megalithic structures are also found in the Netherlands, were I come from. Besides that, while it might seem a bit likely because of how the stones are lined up in the map (in a circular form), it is all just guessing as everything on the map is in miniature and there aren't many images of other locations in the region besides Lumiose City. BlazingFist ☼ 19:03, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
Although it's most likely the Carnac stones, one of the most well known megalitchic structures in the world. But as said, it's currently only guessing (and sorry for saying Bretagne instead of Brittany). Արիանո 19:11, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

We don't know for sure

Why does the article state that the region is based on France? As far as I know, no source has confirmed this. I personally believe that Kalos is based on France, but I don't think it should be included in the article. If it must stay, I would suggest something like "Similarities in geography and landmarks suggest Kalos is based on France." - unsigned comment from Opalhat (talkcontribs)

There's enough information to know that it's based on France, the shape of the region is the same shape as France, the tower in Lumiose City that's based off the Eiffel Tower, and the stones where the Carnac Stones should be, as well as the fact that Ken Sugimori had visited France recently. -EVsandIVsaurs 00:30, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
There's enough information to 'suggest' it is based on France, there is not enough to 'know'. What you're doing is speculating, which is clearly forbidden above. Besides, if the article is going to say so, can it not do so in a more aproprate, lest difinate way: e.g. "Parts are based on France", or "it is likley based off France". Because the way it's written currently is missleading, as it suggests that we 'know' for a fact that the entire is based off France, rather than it is assumed. Do you have a source that actually says it's based on France? No? Then it's nothing more than speculation. Alexsau1991 (talk) 00:07, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
Just noticed the header on the article which says "Please be cautious when adding information to this article, as rumors and speculation often get confused with fact; avoid any information on this subject which is not confirmed by reliable sources". It's pure speculation that you're tring to pass off as fact. There is no 'reliable source', thus it should not be in the article. Who exactly are these rules for if, people are so quick to disregard them so blatently? Alexsau1991 (talk) 00:12, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
Actually, we in fact do know Kalos is based on France. It was confirmed in the video log of E3's Pokémon round table. So no, not speculation. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 00:17, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

One of the developers let it slip that it was based on france during the E3 event which was aired on youtube. Yamitora1 (talk) 00:19, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

looks like I was typing this at the same time as you Arc. But yeah, it was confirmed, albeit as a slip up. Yamitora1 (talk) 00:22, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

I think the east side of Kalos base more on West-Germany. The river could be the Rin (the France dont have a river at the border) Germany also have more mountains and so on--SoranPanoko (talk)

Name Origin

Kalos means "good" and "beautiful" in Greek. That goes with the main theme of the games, beauty. Phoenix-f- (talk) 17:00, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

Kalos' Korean name

It shouldn't surprise anyone, but it's 칼로스 Kalloseu. At least now it's official. :D -- Nick15 (talk) 22:53, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Kalos & Kanto starter Pokémon

It has been officially confirmed that Bulbasaur, Charmander, or Squirtle will be given to the player shortly after they receive Chespin, Fennekin, and Froakie. With that in mind, I feel they should be added under the "Starter Pokémon" section of Kalos's description. However, I'm not entirely certain I should add this because the Kanto starters are from Generation I, not Generation VI. Any suggestions? Nintendo101 (talk) 02:46, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

I don't believe it has ever been confirmed that they will be given shortly after getting the Kalos starter. Regardless, the starter Pokémon here in Kalos are Chespin, Fennekin, Froakie, not the Kanto starters; you don't start with the Kanto Pokémon. --SnorlaxMonster 09:37, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
It is outright stated that you meet Professor Sycamore in Lumiose City. That's after the first Gym, so it isn't shortly after you receive your starters. And like SnorlaxMonster said, you don't start with them, thus they are not starters. Ataro (talk) 11:25, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

New Eurogamer interview with Junichi Masuda

Tom Phillips recently interviewed Junichi Masuda for the Eurogamer website. Masuda offered some more information on the design concept behind Kalos:

"X and Y's new design has influenced other things, too - not least the decision to set it in a fictional version of France (previous games focused on regions of Japan, while Black and White moved the action to an adapted version of New York). 'With X and Y we wanted to focus on a theme of beauty,' Masuda explained. 'From a Japanese perspective, when we think of design, food, fashion - a lot of people go to France to receive training. We think it's a country which focuses on beauty and so it was a good inspiration for the new Kalos region.' The setting's influence is noticeable in some of Kalos' architecture but not overly forced - the world still feels like a corner of the Pokémon universe, albeit one with cafés that serve limonade and chocolat chaud."

You can read the rest of the interview here. Arpha (talk) 17:34, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Demonym

Is it somehow notable that Kalos is the only region to have a demonym, Kalosian (found in the description of Kiloude City)? Or do any of the other regions have those? Արիանո 07:56, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Demographics Wise

I just looked at Lumiose City, 416 are you sure that's right, I know it's a big city, but that dwarfs even Castelia, Goldenrod, Saffron and Lilycove combined. Zallaraxium (talk) 11:02, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

If you count all the Lumi Cab non-Gate destinations (unless you're supposed to count the Gate dwellers as well...), there are 40, and most of those have at least 5 people in them; usually there's a little or a lot more than that, which really adds up. Then there are a few other locations with people, and then all the streets. So the number is entirely deserved. (If you really want, I'll list for you every number I have for every place in the city.)
The thing is, 416 is actually low. I've currently counted everything (non-Gate) except post-game establishments and I get 433. Tiddlywinks (talk) 14:48, 3 July 2014 (UTC)