User talk:Trak Nar

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  Yamitora1 (talk) 06:23, 29 May 2013 (UTC)  

Hello there!

Hi! I've been tracking your edits for the past day now, and there are a few issues that I'd like to simply talk with you about. Let me start out by saying that your edits to grammar are perfectly fine and welcome. It's the edits you label as "formatting" that I, along with some of the other staff members, have qualms with. We have a lot of stylistic differences within our wiki that are different from other wikis you may have edited previously. I will have them listed below.

  • My first point will be the —. Although technically correct, it causes the raw coding to be much harder to decipher, which is something we'd like to avoid. It doesn't truly change anything visual on the actual page, so we ask that you don't go around changing hyphens and dashes to that coding anymore.
  • Secondly, category reordering. Many times, the categories on pages are in a chronological order based on how things were released throughout the franchise's history. Take your edit to Blaine, for example. You took something that is common knowledge for any Pokémon fan (the game order), and within the categories, turned it into an alphabetical order that we don't prefer. Things like this are chronological for ease of adding new ones in. There are some card articles with 100+ categories, ordered based on chronological release, so new entries are added right at the bottom. Alphabetical would be a nightmare and a half, and would make no sense to someone looking at the finished page.
  • Third. Link templates. Never [[Pidgey]]. Always {{p|Pidgey}}. Never [[Cacophony]]. Always {{a|Cacophony}}. Never [[Razor Leaf]]. Always {{m|Razor Leaf}}. These are some easy examples, but it is official policy to use link templates, so try to learn as many as you can.
  • Fourth. Removing breaks. When you remove the <br> from in between templates, you are making them run together visually on the finished page. We absolutely don't want that here at Bulbapedia. They need spaced out: it looks cleaner and neater, and is what we want for every page.
  • Fifth. Image sizes... Unless an image is ungodly too big or too small, please don't spend edits changing an image by 50px. All of these things I've already mentioned don't really change the aesthetic of the finished page, so they shouldn't be done.

As important as these formatting issues may be on places like Wikipedia, Bulbapedia and Wikipedia aren't the same. We have distinct differences that cater towards our userbase, our staff, our readers, and our supporters. Ultimately, we want you to adapt to our systems and methods. It's a learning process, and we'll help out. Just reach out to any Staff member, and we'd be willing and ready to assist. MaverickNate 05:49, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Okay, I will admit, I did exaggerate a bit on the image point. I wasn't sure how exactly you would take my lengthy first message, and wanted to test the waters, so to speak. Changing the specific aspects of the images (sizes, placement, etc) is possible and allowed; we'd just like to see something additional done with the edit. The staff just prefers having all edits be more worthwhile. As long as you find a different issue with the article, like something factual or grammatical, it is perfectly acceptable to make image sizes more consistent or change their placement for aesthetic reasons. They don't all have to be on the right. MaverickNate 18:12, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
Even if "formatting" may be a bit of a vague term to use as an edit summary, you are still leagues ahead of most users. Many don't use the edit summary box to explain what they did.
Linking to the same article once per section seems to be a good rule to follow. I'm remembering some sort of rule saying something like that, but I'm failing to find it as well... o_o; I personally tend to overlink sections though. I'd rather readers be able to get to any relevant article they want without having to scroll around to find the link or mess with the search bar (especially on the TCG merchandise pages, where readers would most likely only be looking up a specific piece of merchandise). Once per section is a great standard to follow. MaverickNate 03:44, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

The Preview Button

Instead of editing a page several times in a row, try using the preview button to make sure your edit looks the way you want it to. It's right next to the Save Page button. Please try it out, so as not to clog up the Recent Changes. Thanks! --ForceFire 07:26, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Inuse template

Hello, I've noticed that you have edited a page that had an {{inuse}} template on it. When the inuse template is there, it means you may not edit it as the user who placed it there is currently updating the page. Yes, time has passed, but you have to understand that there is a lot of stuff going into that page and it doesn't take two hours to complete. So next time you see a page with an inuse template, do not edit the page until the user that placed it there has finished and removed the template.--ForceFire 07:26, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Just curious...

I'm a bit confused about the decision to change the commas to hyphens on the Otoshi page. It's not a big deal at all, but how are the hyphens more correct? Aren't the commas equally acceptable because they separate "who claimed that Jessie had taken the badges from them" from the rest of the sentence? I'm not trying to be accusatory; I'm probably wrong but I am curious if there is a grammatical difference between the two. AGGRON989 03:46, 14 February 2014 (UTC)