Talk:Sobble (Pokémon)
Pokedex entry
Need to create a "Gen VIII" case in the Template:Dex/Gen and add "Sword" and "Shield" version cases to Template:Dex/Entry2. — Rmkane (talk) 18:20, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
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Name Origin
Should it be said that the "meso" of their Japanese name could, in addition to being from "mesomeso", be a reference to the Mesosaurus (an extinct marine reptile, "commonly believed to have been the first")?--Garr9988 (talk) 02:31, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
Makes sense and it can explain Sobble's type. Macpika (talk) 01:15, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
Quadroped
Quadruped is mispelled as quadroped in the article's Biology section. --Landfish7 03:23, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
Origin
Sobble might be based on a chameleon.Robbie (talk) 15:05, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
I agree! Esquilo30 (talk) 01:16, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
National Pokédex number
Because every new Pokémon for Sword & Shield will be numbered after Melmetal, that means that Sobble's NatDex number is #816.
TheICTLiker4 (talk) 17:41, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
How Sobble's Species Origin Connects with Water?
Macpika (talk) 23:03, 8 March 2019 (UTC) I am aware that Sobble is based on a chameleon because of its appearance and its ability to change color, but something kind of puzzles me.
The previous Water-type starters are all based on semi-aquatic animals, but I haven't heard of chameleons being aquatic. Are there some species of chameleons that are aquatic (or capable of swimming) or is Sobble also based on other lizards that are aquatic like the basilisk lizard?
1. Maybe Sobble will evolve into pokemon more based on semi-aquatic lizards or anything else associated with water.
2. A lot of the Grass-type and Fire-type starters are based on animals that have no association with plants and fire either.Robbie (talk) 14:56, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
I never thought about it. You have a good point. Macpika (talk) 20:37, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
Sobble could actually be based on the Crested Newt, a frilled lizard-like amphibian. Or even be a newt/chameleon hybrid.--QuietBrowser (talk) 20:06, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
- This was my initial thought when it was revealed; crested newts are camouflaged in their natural habitat and are native to the UK, Grookey was the outlier there. It has chameleon influence in the curving tail and paws, but the hiding in water is basically the life of the crested newt. This should be reflected it it's origin section somehow, though it would be quite cluttered (and we haven't even started on the non-animal influences). SJ (talk) 10:23, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
Sobble's Connection with Water Solved!
We know Sobble is based on a chameleon and I believe I figured out how it connects with water.
It could be based on the Veiled chameleon. Even though it's not aquatic, it has a special adaption to collect water in its habitat where there is little water. This species of chameleon has a casque (the helmet-like protrusion on top of its head) that collects water. At night, droplets of moisture roll down the casque and into the chameleon's mouth.
The way the droplets flow down the Veiled chameleon's face could give the illusion that it's crying which could explain the teardrop markings on Sobble's face. The adult males of this species have defined bands of blue and yellow. Those two colors are part of Sobble's color scheme.
Here are the links for more information: https://animals.sandiegozoo.org/animals/chameleon (As you scroll down, start reading where is says "A water-catching casque.")
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veiled_chameleon
Here is a picture of the adult male Veiled chameleon: https://flchams.com/chameleon/adult-veiled-chameleons-for-sale/
Enjoy!--Macpika (talk) 02:42, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
Timid
Need to add info about it being timid. if it is threatened, it will cry and cause everyone nearby to start crying as well. Kirsten Thomas (talk) 04:07, 11 June 2019 (UTC)Kirsten
Possible trivia note?
I don't know all the protocols, but is it worth mentioning that Sobble would be either our third reptile Water starter (if it's a chameleon; Squirtle and Totodile preceded it), or our second or third amphibian Water starter (Froakie definitely came first, Mudkip could be either an amphibian or a fish) if it turns out to be based on a newt?--QuietBrowser (talk) 20:10, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
Since Sobble is known as the Water Lizard Pokémon (and is based on a chameleon, a type of lizard), it would be mentioned that it is our third reptile Water starter since lizards are reptiles.
This could also complete the Lizard Starter trio since Treecko is the Wood Gecko Pokémon (geckos are a type of lizard), Charmander is the Lizard Pokémon and Sobble is the Water Lizard Pokémon.--Macpika (talk) 02:12, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
Why can't I edit this page?
I wanted to add the following info to this page:
"Sobble's tears are capable of making others cry. This effect is so strong, it is said that its tears are as potent as 100 onions. If Sobble feels threatened, it will start to bawl and spread its tears around the area, causing everyone around it to start crying uncontrollably. Sobble will then use this distraction as a chance to escape."
Maybe in a trivia section on the page. But I get a message saying I don't have permission to edit this page. Why? Sundar (talk) 00:48, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
- Usually, whenever a new Pokémon is announced, an article is immediately created but locked from users who aren't admins in order to prevent speculation and unconfirmed information from being added into the article. The lock will be lifted once the games are released. If you want the material to be included, I suggest making an edit request on the talk page for Sobble's article. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 01:48, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
Origin for Trivia Section
We know Sobble is based on a chameleon and it says that's it's Water-typing is based on the basilisk lizard, but here's another thing you could add which makes a lot of sense (like how it also connects to water).
Because of its color scheme and type, Sobble could be based on the Veiled chameleon. Even though it's not aquatic, it has a special adaption to collect water in its habitat where there is little water. This species of chameleon has a casque (the helmet-like protrusion on top of its head) that collects water. At night, droplets of moisture roll down the casque and into the chameleon's mouth.
The way the droplets flow down the Veiled chameleon's face could give the illusion that it's crying which could explain the teardrop markings on Sobble's face. The adult males of this species have defined bands of blue and yellow. Those two colors are part of Sobble's color scheme.
Here are the links for more information: https://animals.sandiegozoo.org/animals/chameleon (As you scroll down, start reading where is says "A water-catching casque.") https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veiled_chameleon
Here is a picture of the adult male Veiled chameleon: https://flchams.com/chameleon/adult-veiled-chameleons-for-sale/ Macpika (talk) 03:52, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
