Talk:Owner's Pokémon (TCG)
____'s Oshawott
Okay, a few days ago I went to Wal-Mart and I found a set with a card called ____'s Oshawott. I forget what number it is or what set. Does anybody know? Pokedex493 23:19, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
- Here you go. ★Jo the Marten★ ಠ_ಠ♥ 23:22, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. :D Pokedex493 23:29, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
Split by Owners that have mechanical/visual implications or other cards that reference them
This article has 76 different lists of cards! Yowza, that's a lot of cards. I think some of these groups can get their own pages due to having mechanical or visual implications that bear explaining. Explanations that are probably longer than 1-2 sentences in the case of various evil teams, a comparison to Dark Pokémon for the Rocket's Pokémon, and all the old Gym ones which have modified frames. Also this article would really benefit from noting the cards these are meant to work with, and there's just no space because of the sheer length of having all of the Owner's here. I think this article should have main article links for those that meet the criteria, and keep everything else. (And no, Ash's Friendship does not mean Ash's Pokémon have mechanical implications, that card is checking for a full card name and not part of a card name.) Salmancer (talk) 17:53, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- I'm going to contend that this article should still be split in this way and not by Owners vs Trainers, as the split template said before it was edited. I don't think this is two mechanics. This is 76+ mechanics with two umbrella terms over their heads, in exactly the same way Battle Styles are three mechanics with an umbrella term over their heads. Compare Pokémon SP, which is a single mechanic with different tags on the end, mostly because every Pokémon SP has "SP" somewhere on the card. (Also, like, the Owner's Pokémon aren't remotely consistent as a group. Which happens when they pop up series after series for different kinds of promotions. That's why they need blurbs saying what is true about each group in the first place.) Salmancer (talk) 10:16, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
- I disagree. If they were 76 different mechanics, they would each be listed in the rulebooks as their own entires. But, as it stands, only Trainer's Pokemon and Owner's Pokemon are listed in the rulebooks each with their own separate entries. We should work to split it first based on this basic difference, and then drill it down further based on need. The details on *how* the individual cards are released aren't really relevant on the article detailing the mechanic. MaverickNate 03:50, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'm inclined to agree with Nate, If only because certain owners with mechanics don't really seem to warrant a page to me? Like Butler's Pokémon and and LaRousse's Pokémon interact with Butler's Magic Trick and Tory's Feelings respectively, but I'd be hard pressed to consider either owner "a real mechanic with thought behind it" like the Kanto Gym Leaders or the new guys in Journey Together.
- That said, I think we really need to determine where the line is drawn between an "Owner's" and "Trainer's" Pokémon. As far as I know, there are no cards (yet -- I'm expecting some in coming sets) that specifically refer to Trainer's Pokémon; there's only a handful of cards from the EX Series that refer to Owner's Pokémon (plus the multitude of cards that refer to a specific owner). Because of this, as far as I know, there's no rulings anywhere as to which Owner's specifically also constitute as Trainer's. The main ones I see as particularly blurry are the evil teams (which do not use human icons in the EX Series, but do in the original and XY Series), and one-off promos like Red's Pikachu (would anyone at TPC be bothered to rule it?). Considering current officially-supported formats only go back as far as DP Era, if a card in an upcoming set were to refer to Trainer's Pokémon, I'm not sure it'd even help. RotomAmiti (talk) 14:19, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
- We also haven't seen any of the guidance from TPCi via rulebooks or additional information in the Journey Together ETB Booklets yet. It could very well be included in those and this problem will become mute in a few weeks' time. I am also hopeful that some cards referring to 'Trainer's Pokemon' do come out, because then there's a chance of rulings for some of these older cards.
- We could also simply have a section on the page of Trainer cards that interact with specific groups. I don't think that Lillie's Pearl does anything incredibly special that necessitates it being explained separately than Hop's Choice Band or even Butler's Magic Trick and Clair's TM 01.
- An additional thing we need to figure out is getting all of the 'aesthetic' cards out of these mechanic categories. MaverickNate 00:26, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'm inclined to agree with Nate, If only because certain owners with mechanics don't really seem to warrant a page to me? Like Butler's Pokémon and and LaRousse's Pokémon interact with Butler's Magic Trick and Tory's Feelings respectively, but I'd be hard pressed to consider either owner "a real mechanic with thought behind it" like the Kanto Gym Leaders or the new guys in Journey Together.
- I disagree. If they were 76 different mechanics, they would each be listed in the rulebooks as their own entires. But, as it stands, only Trainer's Pokemon and Owner's Pokemon are listed in the rulebooks each with their own separate entries. We should work to split it first based on this basic difference, and then drill it down further based on need. The details on *how* the individual cards are released aren't really relevant on the article detailing the mechanic. MaverickNate 03:50, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
Rocket's Pokémon vs Team Rocket's Pokémon
I know this is kind of silly, but it's been bugging me since Destined Rivals released. If we consider cards like Here Comes Team Rocket! to be a Team Rocket's card because it interacts with cards like Team Rocket's Transceiver, shouldn't every Team Rocket's archetype card also be a Rocket's card (or at least just the Pokémon)? Cards like Rocket's Tricky Gym only look for whether a card has Rocket's in the name which Team Rocket's Pokémon also have.
It feels weird to list every Team Rocket's mon twice, but if someone were theoretically looking for a single list of cards that interact with Tricky Gym they wouldn't be able to find it. MxRobinson (talk) 17:41, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
- I think the case of Here Comes Team Rocket is a special one, simply because it doesn't fit into the aforementioned "Rocket's" category. If it fit into that, it probably would be listed there instead. For simplicity's sake I believe we should leave the page as is in that regard. I think that such a "theoretical" user would be able to scroll down and find the "Team Rocket's" Pokémon and connect the dots without too much trouble. Dougbro1 (Talk) 18:28, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
- It's a really weird situation, and I strongly disagree with Creatures's decision to effectively create a second mechanic for Team Rocket. I had added a note to the Team Rocket's Pokémon section about how they are a valid target for effects looking for Rocket's Pokémon in English. But that's the thing, they aren't targets in Japanese. Take Rocket's Mission—in English, it targets "Pokémon with Rocket's in its name", but in Japanese, it targets "R団のポケモン" (Rocket's Pokémon), which is not the same thing as "ロケット団のポケモン" (Team Rocket's Pokémon). Semi-related, (and this is something we still need to comb through), because Rocket's Mission's Japanese name contains "ロケット団", it is a valid target for Transceiver where it is not in English (because it doesn't have the word Team). We need to find a standard for the language disparity, but I don't want to repeat listings unnecessarily. I'll at least add a similar note to the Rocket's Pokémon section as I did in the Team Rocket's one, for now. RotomAmiti (talk) 18:29, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah, that makes sense for the sake of brevity of this page. Maybe something about the Team Rocket's mons should be added to Category:Rocket (TCG) though? MxRobinson (talk) 18:50, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
Don't know how to edit sections, but would love help
I noticed that the page for Clair is updated with a card [Kingdra (Battle Styles 33) - Bulbapedia, the community-driven Pokémon encyclopedia], but this page doesn't include it.
If someone would, could I get a tutorial for editing the section (I've never edited on this site)? Or if you don't have the time, could someone do the updating? Thanks! Enchorial (talk) 19:14, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
- I appreciate the interest and your looking out! That Kingdra card is actually out of this page's scope, however. This page specifically covers Owner's Pokémon as a gameplay mechanic. If that Kingdra was an Owner's Pokémon, it would be named "Clair's Kingdra", not simply having Clair in the artwork. We're intending to rework this page pretty drastically soonish (That table of contents is far too long, plus there's some hair-splitting to get into with the difference between a "Trainer" and an "Owner". I digress.), and as part of that initiative, I would like to have a page for Trainer Gallery cards—of which that Kingdra is a part of. Trainer Gallery cards are the proto-illustration rare Full Art cards from Cosmic Eclipse and the late Sword & Shield Series that have Trainers in the artwork. For now, Clair's page mentioning that "this is a card with Clair in it" is where it belongs, though I will certainly concede that the header on that page and any others like it should read "Cards featuring Clair" rather than "Clair's Pokémon".
- If you are interested in helping editing, let me direct you to Help:Editing pages. I'd personally recommend editing on desktop, but otherwise, this should get you started! RotomAmiti (talk) 20:25, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
- Ahh, ok. Thanks for clarifying that. I will definitely check that link out! Enchorial (talk) 22:21, 6 April 2026 (UTC)