Talk:Nintendo Switch

8th generation, not 9th

I saw that Wikipedia has it listed as an 8th generation not 9th generation, I wonder if it is an error, I'm going to change it just in case Wikipedia is right (which is most cases is). SaturnMario, his talk and his contributions 04:43, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Proposal

I have to say that the Nintendo Switch is supposed to be a home console that can be played on the go, rather than a dedicated portal handheld system, but I see that someone keeps changing this to a fact that reveals that it's both a home console and a handheld system. Is it okay if a staff member can remove the handheld console category, replace the word "Hybrid" with the word "Home" on the infobox, and change "It is both a home console and a handheld console." to " Despite this classification, Nintendo markets the system mostly as a home console that can be played on the go instead of a dedicated portable handheld system.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20150619220606/wiiudaily.com/2015/06/reggie-nx-home-console/ Archived snapshot]</ref>" --SaturnMario, his talk and his contributions 22:28, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

The claim "Nintendo markets the system mostly as a home console that can be played on the go instead of a dedicated portable handheld system" is simply false. It's obviously not a dedicated handheld system, but including that word is just trying to pretend that Nintendo does not consider the system a handheld system at all, when they clearly consider it both a home console and a handheld system at the same time.

First, the source you've cited doesn't actually state what you're claiming it does (in fact, it states the opposite). All that Reggie said in the interview that that article is citing (not sure why you didn't just reference the interview directly) was that the NX (codename for the Switch) would be a home console. But as even the article itself notes, that "doesn’t really rule out a hybrid device" (i.e. does not mean that Nintendo does not consider it to be both a home console and a handheld at the same time).

But regardless, this article is from before the Nintendo Switch was even announced—it will still codenamed NX. Any kind of discussion of what a future system could include is irrelevant. Any kind of source for this claim would at the very least need to be from after the Switch was announced. And if the claim is about Nintendo usually markets a product, a single comment in a single interview (that doesn't even mention marketing) would not be a good source for it anyway.

As for how we know that Nintendo considers it both:

• Nintendo.com: "Nintendo Switch is designed to fit your life, transforming from home console to portable system in a snap."
• Nintendo.com: "The Nintendo Switch system transforms from home console to handheld, letting you play your favorite games at home or on the go. [...] Nintendo Switch Lite is dedicated to handheld play and is smaller and lighter than the Nintendo Switch system."
• The fact that it is always marketed with three modes: TV Mode, Tabletop Mode, and Handheld Mode.

I don't know where you got the idea that the Switch is not a handheld system, but it's not at all supported by the evidence (or even your own source). --SnorlaxMonster 01:59, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Can you please do me a favor?

I'm requesting you to improve this page.

The first sentence in the top section currently reads as follows:

The '''Nintendo Switch''' (Japanese: '''ニンテンドースイッチ''' ''Nintendo Switch'') is [[Nintendo]]'s hybrid console for the {{wp|Eighth generation of video game consoles|eighth generation}} of video games.

The Nintendo Switch (Japanese: ニンテンドースイッチ Nintendo Switch) is Nintendo's hybrid console for the eighth generation of video games.

Will you please change this content? It should look like this:

The '''Nintendo Switch''' (Japanese: '''ニンテンドースイッチ''' ''Nintendo Switch'') is [[Nintendo]]'s hybrid console for the {{wp|Eighth generation of video game consoles|eighth generation}} of video games, which serves as one of the company's competitions for Sony's {{wp|PlayStation Vita}}, the other being the [[Nintendo 3DS]].

The Nintendo Switch (Japanese: ニンテンドースイッチ Nintendo Switch) is Nintendo's hybrid console for the eighth generation of video games, which serves as one of the company's competitions for Sony's PlayStation Vita, the other being the Nintendo 3DS.

Also, the trivia section currently reads as follows:

* The Nintendo Switch is the only Nintendo video game console to have its first [[core series]] Pokémon title not be the start of a new [[generation]].
** This excludes the [[Game Boy Color]]. {{game|Yellow}} (outside of Japan) and {{game|Gold and Silver|s}} were both Game Boy Color games that were also compatible with the [[Game Boy]], but Pokémon Yellow was marketed as a Game Boy game that is enhanced on Game Boy Color, while Pokémon Gold and Silver were marketed as Game Boy Color games that are playable on Game Boy. {{game|Crystal}} was the first Pokémon title to be exclusive to the Game Boy Color.
* The Nintendo Switch is the first home console to natively play core series Pokémon titles. Previous home consoles require a peripheral (such as the [[Super Game Boy]], [[Transfer Pak]], or [[Game Boy Player]]) to play core series Pokémon games.
* The Nintendo Switch is the only Nintendo home console not to be [[software region|region-locked]] (except in {{wp|Mainland China}}, where it is region-locked).
* The Nintendo Switch is the first Nintendo system to have more than two generations of core series games released for it, being everything from [[Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!]] to [[Pokémon Legends: Z-A]].
** It also has the most core series games released for it, so far being ten.
* Of the Nintendo systems with core series Pokémon titles released for it, the Nintendo Switch is the only one in which none of them are among the top five best selling games for the system, despite the second and third best selling Pokémon games of all time being released on this system.
** It is also the only one with more than one release of a solitary core series game.
* On May 31, 2023, Nintendo discontinued purchases and code redemptions for the Nintendo eShop in Russia. Already-purchased software would still be available to redownload.<ref>https://www.gamedeveloper.com/business/nintendo-eshop-to-effectively-shut-down-in-russia e-shop shutdown in Russia</ref>

Will you please change this as well? It should look like this:

* The Nintendo Switch is the only Nintendo video game console to have its first [[core series]] Pokémon title not be the start of a new [[generation]].
** This excludes the [[Game Boy Color]]. {{game|Yellow}} (outside of Japan) and {{game|Gold and Silver|s}} were both Game Boy Color games that were also compatible with the [[Game Boy]], but Pokémon Yellow was marketed as a Game Boy game that is enhanced on Game Boy Color, while Pokémon Gold and Silver were marketed as Game Boy Color games that are playable on Game Boy. {{game|Crystal}} was the first Pokémon title to be exclusive to the Game Boy Color.
* The Nintendo Switch is the first home console to natively play core series Pokémon titles. Previous home consoles require a peripheral (such as the [[Super Game Boy]], [[Transfer Pak]], or [[Game Boy Player]]) to play core series Pokémon games.
* The Nintendo Switch is the only Nintendo home console not to be [[software region|region-locked]] (except in {{wp|Mainland China}}, where it is region-locked).
** However, it is the first Nintendo handheld console since the [[Nintendo DS Lite]] not to be region-locked (except in Mainland China, where it is region-locked).
* The Nintendo Switch is the first Nintendo system to have more than two generations of core series games released for it, being everything from [[Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!]] to [[Pokémon Legends: Z-A]].
** It also has the most core series games released for it, so far being ten.
* Of the Nintendo systems with core series Pokémon titles released for it, the Nintendo Switch is the only one in which none of them are among the top five best selling games for the system, despite the second and third best selling Pokémon games of all time being released on this system.
** It is also the only one with more than one release of a solitary core series game.
* On May 31, 2023, Nintendo discontinued purchases and code redemptions for the Nintendo eShop in Russia. However, already-purchased software would still be available to redownload.<ref>[https://www.gamedeveloper.com/business/nintendo-eshop-to-effectively-shut-down-in-russia Nintendo eShop to effectively shut down in Russia | Game Developer]</ref>

• The Nintendo Switch is the only Nintendo video game console to have its first core series Pokémon title not be the start of a new generation.
  • This excludes the Game Boy Color. Pokémon Yellow (outside of Japan) and Pokémon Gold and Silver were both Game Boy Color games that were also compatible with the Game Boy, but Pokémon Yellow was marketed as a Game Boy game that is enhanced on Game Boy Color, while Pokémon Gold and Silver were marketed as Game Boy Color games that are playable on Game Boy. Pokémon Crystal was the first Pokémon title to be exclusive to the Game Boy Color.
• The Nintendo Switch is the first home console to natively play core series Pokémon titles. Previous home consoles require a peripheral (such as the Super Game Boy, Transfer Pak, or Game Boy Player) to play core series Pokémon games.
• The Nintendo Switch is the only Nintendo home console not to be region-locked (except in Mainland China, where it is region-locked).
  • However, it is the first Nintendo handheld console since the Nintendo DS Lite not to be region-locked (except in Mainland China, where it is region-locked).
• The Nintendo Switch is the first Nintendo system to have more than two generations of core series games released for it, being everything from Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee! to Pokémon Legends: Z-A.
  • It also has the most core series games released for it, so far being ten.
• Of the Nintendo systems with core series Pokémon titles released for it, the Nintendo Switch is the only one in which none of them are among the top five best selling games for the system, despite the second and third best selling Pokémon games of all time being released on this system.
  • It is also the only one with more than one release of a solitary core series game.
• On May 31, 2023, Nintendo discontinued purchases and code redemptions for the Nintendo eShop in Russia. However, already-purchased software would still be available to redownload.

References

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Nintendo eShop to effectively shut down in Russia | Game Developer

Thanks! SaturnMario, his talk and his contributions 22:50, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for using the talk page! After fact checking your changes, the only change that remained viable was the one to the trivia point about the Russian e-shop. I've made the change. ^Maverick_Nate 00:00, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

For clarity, here's some reasoning for why the other changes didn't seem viable:

• The Switch came out in 2017, while the Vita came out in 2011/2012. The Vita was primarily competing with the 3DS (released in 2011), and by the time the Switch released, the Vita was already on its way out. So, it probably isn't accurate to say that the Switch was competing with the Vita, as the Vita was already "defeated" by that point.
• The trivia point regarding region-locking didn't seem notable, as there were only two handhelds between the DS Lite and the Switch - namely, the DSi and the 3DS. Two consoles is a small gap, the trivia would probably be more notable if the gap was bigger.

Thank you for using the talk page! If you're open to feedback, I would suggest condensing an edit suggestion to the main things being changed - in this example, the suggestions were mainly for the article's opening sentence, and two trivia points near the end. We were able to figure out what you meant, so all's good in the end, but limiting it to just the changes can make it easier for other users to understand your proposal. --Boblers (talk) 14:09, 30 August 2024 (UTC)