Talk:List of items in Pokémon Pokopia

Some notes on the non-Collection items

So this doesn't get lost on the Discord, as it's too much to add to the edit summary:

- Most of these fall under either "can be Magnet Rise grabbed and 3D printed" or "can be Magnet Rise grabbed but not 3D printed", but iirc specifically Mud (the larger mud glob) is 3D-print-only. Yeah, I don't know either.

- Not sure why there are two Dry adorable hedges and one of the others; maybe different colors of hedge count as different items? It'd be worth further testing to see if every hedge color (and every wildflower color for Dry wildflowers, for that matter) counts separately; might take some Cloud Island shenanigans to get all colors though.

- The two Farm soils are because it counts differently depending on if it's been watered or not.

- I know at a minimum I'm missing Muddy tiling from the Skylands (see here), other flower/hedge colors if we're counting those as separate items (probably more relevant if/when we have item icons for them?), and potentially Red crystal cluster from the Sableye event depending on whether it's added to the Event collection tab or not; other than that this should *hopefully* be all of them? Items that do NOT have a special version even though it seems like they should: Stardust piles on the ground (Magnet Rise just doesn't target them), drying other types of flowers or palm trees (they don't dry out like wildflowers/other trees do even if the block they're planted on is dried by a Smooth Rock), "hold Y to pull" leaves in the ground (targeting them with Magnet Rise just gives you 2 normal leaves every time)

- Speaking of item icons, the "special method" Magnet Rise items that have a unique item icon are: Sturdy stick, Stone (of note: the promotional material image that icons were extracted from uses the Magnet Rise stone icon but the normal/non-Magnet Rise stick icon for some reason?), Nonburnable garbage. The "special method" Magnet Rise items that just reuse the standard version's icon are the rest: Glowing mushrooms, Seaweed, Seashell, Sea glass fragments, Cave mushrooms, Cotton spores. --Zyxyz (talk) 17:21, 18 March 2026 (UTC)

This page should really be standardized to our item list standard see something like: List of items by pocket in Pokémon Legends: Z-A; the collection tab they fall under would just be 1 column in the table, and stuff that doesnt have a tab can just have the field be left blank i think. Obtainment methods would be something to go into more detail on in individual item pages. 4iamking 17:42, 18 March 2026 (UTC)

Now that I look at it, that specific Z-A page is kind of a strange example to link to because it uses the format of our "List of items by index number in Generation []" pages (extremely vertical, only tabs are #/hex/icon/name/pocket) instead of the more advanced formatting used by other "List of items by pocket" pages (example; note the multiple headers for easier navigation and inclusion of the item descriptions) or by other spinoff games' item lists (just look at how much is packed into e.g., the Conquest or Masters EX pages, and then there's Mystery Dungeon where every item category gets its own bespoke page...)

At the very least, I feel like whatever format we end up using ought to keep the item icons and descriptions included on the list, because if not there, where else would that information go? (Given that we certainly aren't making individual pages for each and every Pokopia item like the main-series items get to have to put those details on, that is. There are nearly 1,300 of them!) Continuing down that line of thought, I suppose it's also worth considering whether we plan to cover even more specific info like item locations as well, and where *those* details would go...

(Also, off-topic, but was your reply meant to be the start of a separate discussion topic rather than a reply *specifically* to my notes? bc it reads more like the former than the latter) --Zyxyz (talk) 18:55, 18 March 2026 (UTC)

My plan is to format the table using the same structure as currently used on the list of event items in Pokémon Pokopia (which I had originally included on this page, I'm not sure why they got moved to their own page). Currently working on an edit for that, but there are a lot of items and I am very ADHD. Storm Aurora (talk) 21:20, 18 March 2026 (UTC)

I split the event items into its own page to mirror that the Habitat and Pokedex have separate event pages. Drjwho (talk) 11:56, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

I actually think there is a larger argument for making individual item articles for pokopia; given many are used for multiple crafting recipes, and the items have all the qualities we'd include in our main series item articles. theres certainly some we can consolidate (fossils come to mind), but I do think it makes sense to do so. 4iamking 02:50, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

I agree that each item should be its own page. Someone looking at this page is likely trying to use it to complete their collection in game. So having things like the recipe for an item, it's location or its use in specific habitats could be useful information.

Another way of doing it could be to copy the pages on Mystery Dungeon items where each category is a page so we could group all the 'food' items or 'blocks' together.

Either way I think it would be useful information to have. Drjwho (talk) 12:01, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

Yeah, the more I play this game and discover how many different ways there are to obtain items and how many different properties items can have, the more convinced I am that having individual pages for each item is the way to go. It'd be hard to cram all that information into a single list, or even multiple lists. Storm Aurora (talk) 14:24, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

Split

This page was taking forever to load when I tried editing the whole page at once, and when I checked the page's size I realized that it would be #15 on Special:LongPages if it was mainspaced as-is. That's in large part due to the fact that all the info is duplicated between the full list and the list separated by collection tab. In an effort to not put throw away the effort that anyone has done to either version of the list, how about we split off the additional tables into a separate page called "List of items by Collection tab in Pokémon Pokopia" or something? Storm Aurora (talk) 19:02, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

Makes sense, I was surprised and confused to see the info duplication when I was editing the page the other day... --Zyxyz (talk) 19:09, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

Its long but its also lean, its at currently less than 1% of the expand limit, and since its mostly text/untemplated tables renders relatively quickly. In my opinion there is benefit in having all the items listed on a single page. 4iamking 23:47, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

I mean yeah I'm good with having all the items listed on a single page. I just don't think they need to all be listed twice Storm Aurora (talk) 23:57, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

I guess maybe I dont even see the need to have both lists; we could just delete the "by category" section; this information is already made available via the sort function. 4iamking 01:03, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

In my opinion, I would keep the 'by category' section instead of the full list.

If someone wanted to find a specific item it would be easier than scrolling through a list that has hundreds of entries. You could just jump to that part with the contents.

Plus it would make editing easier if you edited by section rather than the full page. Drjwho (talk) 11:35, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

The fact that y'all disagree on which one should be kept is proof that we should keep both and let people use whichever list works better for them, imo. I like having the list where it's all in one table because it reflects how items will be sorted in your inventory, but I can also see value in being able to jump to different sections when you're trying to identify particular items your collection is missing.

Speaking of how items are sorted in the inventory, if we do go through with the split, I'd like to add the items that don't appear in the collection into the same table as the full list. That way we can show where they're placed relative to other items when the inventory is sorted. Storm Aurora (talk) 14:21, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

Update: now that I'm pretty confident the non-collection items section is as complete as it's going to get, I can try and remember to test their sorting among Collection items for adding them to the full-list table tomorrow. Is it ok if we move the "Items by category" to its own page right after that? I'm getting ready to start cutting out item icons to upload (just finished moving screenshots for it to my computer today), and if those start getting added here before a split happens the load times really are going to become unmanageable :P --Zyxyz (talk) 13:56, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Sounds like a plan! Storm Aurora (talk) 18:15, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Sorting by usage

I feel like adding the item's "usage" tag from the games could be useful here. There's an option in the crafting menu to sort items by usage, such as "Toy", "Decoration", etc. KienanBlue (talk) 21:03, 12 April 2026 (UTC)