Talk:Generation

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• Side games
• On the chart
• Has the term been officially used before?
• possible trivia
• Update request
• Fanon
• Region
• Each Generation page covering other aspects of the franchise
• Proposed new definition

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Side games

How is it exactly chosen which side games are included in the article, and what the hell does Mystery Dungeon Blazing/Stormy/Light and Rumble do in Console Games section?

I believe that only significant side-games should be included.

Pinball, Puzzle, Ranger and Mystery Dungeons series and Snap should be good, if not too much. Dash, Trozei and Rumble don't have any place on here, I think. --Ash_Pokemaster 23:32, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

On the chart

When should we add HGSS to the english b/c we know it will be released in 2010.--Pokéboy93 03:34, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

It hasn't been released yet.--ForceFire 03:36, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Well ok, we can wait.--Pokéboy93 03:41, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

We know it'll be 2010, but there's no concreteness yet so we can wait. TTEchidna 04:28, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

To ForceFire; It hasen't been release in Japan either. Anyway, I agreed with TTE, Wait till its confirmed! ŚĥîΠŶPî₭₳ĉĥŭ 00:49, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Has the term been officially used before?

link Pokemon.com just used "generation". Has the term officially been used before? - unsigned comment from Deuxhero (talk • contribs)

I'm pretty sure that they have, though I couldn't tell you when or where. :S --ZestyCactus 19:05, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

It says "Welcome to the next generation of Pokémon!" on the back of the DP boxes.--Pokélova! 00:30, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

possible trivia

Should it be noted that each odd numbered generation added one more Pokémon to the maximum number of Pokémon allowed to be sent out at a battle at a time? Generation I had one on one, III two on two, and V three on three. Turtwig's A-B-Cs (talk | contribs) 23:33, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good to me.--Pokélova! 07:29, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Good idea! --Nathan2055^talk 17:48, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Update request

The following should be added to Generation IV's section:

• Console games
  • PokéPark Wii (2009/2010)
• Side games
  • Ranger 3 (2010/2010)
• Anime
  • Sinnoh League Victors
• Adventures
  • HeartGold & SoulSilver chapter
• TCG
  • Unleashed
  • Undaunted
  • Clash at the Summit

Thank you for your time. -- Chosen of Mana 17:16, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Same thing, only with Best Wishes! and the Gen V anime. Yurtablemoron 01:18, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Fanon

Why do we list this page under Fanon when we consider the individual Generation pages as official? That makes no sense to me. It seems that Generation is official considering that Pokémon.com used the term when they revealed the release date of Black and White and as stated above, the boxes for Diamond and Pearl even use the word. Seems official to me. --HoennMaster 22:07, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes, this should not be fanon. Nintendo and TPCi refers to Generations a lot. For example, the English Black and White announcement mentioned "a new generation" (http://www.pokemon.com/us/news/vg_blackwhite_announce-2010-05-28/). --Nathan2055^talk 17:54, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Region

I believe we should include a new region in our "definition", as otherwise I would assume USUM introduces a new generation. Nescientist (talk) 17:15, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Each Generation page covering other aspects of the franchise

Why does each page only cover their respective generations from the core series games' perspectives? Can't we also have them cover such subjects as the spin-offs, the generations representation in the anime, the TCG expansions released under them, and so on? TheFatPanda (talk) 17:42, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Proposed new definition

Hi, all

I think the definition laid out for a generation at the beginning of this article is a little too loose. New Pokemon get added in the middle of generations all the time now, and gens themselves are better used to separate the eras of Pokemon than anything else. Thus, maybe we could describe them as something like "The time between two original (non-remake/non-sequel/etc) paired core series games". For example, Generation 3 is the time between the release of RS and DP, anything part of Gen 3 is considered as such purely by virtue of releasing during that time period. Does that make sense? polishedrelish (talk) 05:30, 24 November 2025 (UTC)

Yeah, that's reasonable to me Storm Aurora (talk) 06:49, 24 November 2025 (UTC)

Great! So should I change the article to reflect that? polishedrelish (talk) 21:20, 24 November 2025 (UTC)

Let's wait a few more days to give more people the opportunity to weigh in on the matter. Storm Aurora (talk) 21:27, 24 November 2025 (UTC)

I think there's an implicit consensus of when a new generation starts (that is shared among the fandom and even TPC/GameFreak). This is a case where it's pretty obvious to everyone, but there's no hard definition for it, and there's currently multiple ways to define it if you insist. But ultimately, the implicit consensus comes first, and then the definition will/can be made accordingly. I think this article should acknowledge that (rather than postulating a definition for it, which would then inevitably be "but that's what Bulbapedia says" when it needn't be).

To illustrate: If the next generation happens to start with a set of three games, then the above definition will turn out to be faulty (but it would still obviously be the start of a new generation). Similarly, you could also define the start of a new generation as "a set of new first partner Pokémon is introduced" (which also has a chance to not hold water, if it'll be four or two or no starters), and some years ago many other definitions would've also worked but they no longer do. You could probably find many more. I don't think it's our job to just pick one of those and hope it'll continue to work.

Also worth noting that the German Pokewiki article will only say that games can be grouped into generations, and then just continues to say what patterns generations happen to have (or generally/often happen to have): new Pokémon, regions, new console, etc. It even acknowledges how it's hard to define (or how easier definitions that were true in the past needed to be updated, how it all became more fuzzy).

So while I wouldn't really object to the proposal, I'd rather we avoid an explicit definition somehow. Nescientist (talk) 22:30, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

I hear you, finding a solid definition of this was a bit of a chore, but given how important the word is I find it to be worth considering. If nothing else, we should at least emphasize at the beginning of the article that Generations group Pokemon games in terms of time periods, which is already reflected by the table just below. polishedrelish (talk) 23:40, 27 November 2025 (UTC)

After thinking about it some more, I think there's an easy middle-ground here. Just replace "separates them based on the Pokemon they include", which stopped being accurate with USUM, with "separates them based on when they released" which emphasizes what they're more commonly used for. polishedrelish (talk) 05:11, 12 March 2026 (UTC)

Not sure if it's a middle ground to what I said (trying to avoid a proper definition altogether), but I'd say it's definitely better than what the article currently says (and also better than your initial proposal). Nescientist (talk) 16:32, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks! I guess we can change the article's text then polishedrelish (talk) 20:33, 19 March 2026 (UTC)