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What this synospis means?

"On their way to Sunyshore City, Ash and his friends get lost in a forest where suddenly, the "Renegade Pokémon" Giratina appears and attacks them. Somehow, the group manages to escape, but then they are directly hit by a flash flood and get caught in a strong current. [edit] Major events" - Isn't this episode about a Misdreavus? - unsigned comment from Eneci (talkcontribs)

Don't worry, it has been changed.--ForceFire 14:29, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Ash's Pokedex

Isn't the wrong color? I thought it was red not Light blue. (I saw the first part of the episode on YouTube) (Kmanecke 13:33, 22 October 2009 (UTC))

I'm pretty sure your confusing it with Brock's Pokégear. --HoennMaster 19:02, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
Nevermind, I see what your talking about. That is not Ash's Pokédex, it belongs to that girl. --HoennMaster 19:05, 22 October 2009 (UTC)


It isn't a real appearance, so no real debut of it. Why is it mentioned as one? --×Impoleon xy× 17:13, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Illusion or not, it appears in the episode, and this is the first time it appears in the show. This counts as its debut. This isn't the first time this has happened either. --HoennMaster 18:13, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
But on the debuts site here, a debut is defined as a pysical appearance, which isn't in usaged in this thing. --×Impoleon xy× 21:09, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Where did you see that because it is not listed in the Manual of style, and appearances similar to this are always counted as debuts. --HoennMaster 22:01, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Read on List of Pokémon by anime debut: This list counts only actual appearances as official. Pokémon which appear on TV in the anime or in another manner before debuting in physical form, such as Nidorino and Gengar in EP001, count as debuting when they physically appear, not when they are first seen. there should be the same rules. --×Impoleon xy× 22:06, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Apparently they don't care anymore because that article even lists some appearances like this as debuts. --HoennMaster 22:11, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
In DP092, we mentioned that Mew debuted for the first time in the anime even though it was just in Meowth's fantasy. Why is this different? --ケンジガール 22:36, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
I think this also should be removed. Like Rayquaza's appearance in another episode. It has been removed from the list already... --×Impoleon xy× 09:24, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
According to List of Pokémon by anime debut, this is not a debut. I honestly think if Giratina was not physically present in th, then it's not worth mentioning as being debuted. - Vhayes1992 20:46, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
Right!--×Impoleon xy× 08:46, 19 November 2009 (UTC)


Isn't it worth saying that this is the first appearance of the Dusk Stone? [[[User:Chomi|Chomi]] 16:33, 13 March 2010 (UTC)]