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When was Jun confirmed to appear in this episode? ~RR~ 16:52, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Pokeani.... Jmath 19:40, 4 January 2009 (UTC)


the picture is um look horrible (Cyrus is look like zombie)we must wait next week to upload a nicier picture.........................--Bakunawa 12:14, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Cyrus ALWAYS looked like a zombie. =/ --Jonouchi 21:52, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Vine Whip

Are you guys positive the move Carnivine learned is Vine Whip? Are you sure it didn't learn Power Whip instead? PDL 04:09, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

I don't know. I didn't see the episode. But it is possible for Carnivine to learn Vine Whip. --ケンジガール 05:00, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
No one ever says Power Whip or Vine Whip, but it looks like classic Vine Whip. --HoennMaster 05:04, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

ok sorry but youd have to be retarded if you think what it used was vine whip ok. im sorry but seriously Happizelpom 05:17, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

How is that "retarded"? --ケンジガール 05:21, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

i mean cuz look at it its obviously vine whip and its iniated the same way as vine whip, and even comes from the same place as a lot of pokemon do. it looks in no way like power whip, and now im gonna get yelled at so go ahead Happizelpom 05:47, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

But you said in your original comment that you thought it was retarded if people thought it was Vine Whip, not if it wasn't... Either way, you should watch your language. --ケンジガール 05:51, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

well i meant power whip and yea i know im just a bit irritable today Happizelpom 06:24, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Plus, we've never seen Power Whip so we don't know what it looks like. --HoennMaster 08:41, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Guys, for the sake of not starting a big argument and/or an edit war with this discussion, let's just say it's vine whip, 'cause I'm sure we haven't seem power whip yet. Look at the vine whip page and compare carnivine with the other moments where vine whip was seen. It does actually look like a vine whip. Here's how carnivine does it: Carnivine. Two green vines come out of its neck to strike its opponent And here's bulbasaur: Bulbasaur. Two vines come out of Bulbasaur's bulb and hit the opponent. See? It just seems like its vine whip.--DRAGONBEASTX 17:43, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

And even if it was Power Whip, we can always changed it when the dub airs. but yeah, I think it's Vine Whip. --HoennMaster 17:48, 23 January 2009 (UTC)


Other sources say it's Historic Ruins of Steel Island! but this page says Ruins of Steel Island!. In Bulbanews, it says Historic Ruins of Steel Island!, giving me an inconsistent title. I'm confused. Which one is correct?--☆Kevzo8 01:35, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Today, the MSN TV schedule site revealed a new dub episode title: Saving the World from Ruins and is scheduled to air on the 20th of June. From Serebii. -MasterKenobi 02:38, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Dude... He was talking about the Japanese title. This comment is 5 months old. Please check the dates of comments BEFORE you reply to them. --ケンジガール 02:43, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
How was one to know that as it wasn't specified. I'll check the date next time if that makes you happy. - MasterKenobi 02:54, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
It's easy, you check the date first. In January, before it aired in Japan, we wouldn't be talking about the English title. --ケンジガール 02:58, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

New move trivia

"This episode marks the first time in the anime that one of Team Rocket's Pokémon is seen learning a new move." What about Cacnea and Drain Punch? Does that not count because it couldn't repeat it while it was still his, or is the trivia wrong? Werdnae 00:47, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

It meant to be like while under their ownership. like cacnea did not learn drain punch with james, it was trying to perfect it, and only learned it under gardenia Happizelpom 01:16, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

The pic

This ep is about the ruin of Iron Island, not Lucario and Riley......-Billy4b2004 08:41, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Riley and Lucario SAVED Iron Island >.>; I'd say it's strongly about them. --ケンジガール 04:21, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
When I chose that pic, it's because the one of Iron Island didn't really see the point of the episode. *tc26* 11:12, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

So what?

The ruins Team Galactic digs up has the same name as an in-game location. Why is that in the trivia? The animé is based on the games so it has alot of places from the games. For example, Ash Ketchum is from Pallet Town, which is the hometown of Red in the games. Adding that as trivia is like realizing you have hands when you've been using them all your life.SeanWheeler 19:43, 4 April 2010 (UTC) - unsigned comment from SeanWheeler (talkcontribs)

It's not the same place at all. Unless a Registeel appeared in the episode.--MisterE13 19:46, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes it is. The Iron Ruins are in Iron Island. Registeel might of been sleeping, although it's unlikely because Registeel's body would of been seen, and the explosion would of woke it up. Or Registeel could of left because of Team Galactic's machine hypnotized the Steel types and was wrecking havoc somewhere else.--SeanWheeler 22:25, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

About the Bombs

When Mars used the Remote Control Trigger to detonate the Bombs, Riley and Lucario are projecting an Aura Bubble that is only big enough to contain only ONE Bomb yet there WERE several Bombs planted at the ruins. There are two possibilities to explain what happened:

  • 1. Team Galactic tried to use a Demolition System where there is one Master Bomb with a Remote Control Trigger and several Secondary Bombs that can only be detonated by the explosion of the Master Bomb.
  • 2. Team Galactic planted only one Live Bomb, strong enough to destroy Iron Island by itself, and several Decoys to fool Riley and Lucario.

--Arima 01:40, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Or maybe Riley and Lucario had pulled all the bombs together before they detonated, or maybe the animaters screwed up?--SeanWheeler 14:04, 1 May 2010 (UTC)