Talk:Conversion 2 (move)

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So, what about that table mentioned in the commented-out part? TTEchidna 00:18, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

What happens if Conversion 2 is used after Curse? Recalcitrancy 03:07, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

STAB Question

Does anyone know if the pokémon gets STAB for the new type(s) or if it retains STAB for its original type(s)? White Phoenix 02:54, 21 May 2009 (UTC)


It says in the trivia that "The only legally unobtainable type is the Ghost-type", but is that true? I mean, theoretically, Conversion2 would change a Porygon's type to Ghost in order to resist the last attack, so if it was hit by a Bug attack for example, wouldn't it make it Ghost? (By the way, does it change the type to a type that resists it randomly? I mean, in order to resist Fire will it always change to Water or might also change to Fire or Rock?)--Cappuccino 16:08, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, the type Conversion 2 chooses is chosen at random from any type that does less than 1× damage to the type of the last move. Hence, a Fire-type move could yield Fire, Water, or Rock, while a Ground-type move could yield Grass, Flying, or Bug. --Shiningpikablu252 16:16, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
That actually confirms what I was talking about, right? I mean, the info in Trivia is wrong, isn't it?--Cappuccino 17:44, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


Isn't the move called Conversion2? --CUBONE (Planet CuboneBone Club) PWNS 02:01, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

No. —darklordtrom 02:16, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Will it fail?

I had my TOGEKISU use Metronome and Conversion 2 came out. It said it failed, though, when he was attacked by electric or ice type moves, they weren't super-effective on him! so I'm guessing it made him change to other type, MAYBE to only Normal, so that's why t said it failed (becausehe alread was normal type pokémon), but it did work... So (O.O) how does this work again? YukitoOoO 04:59, 16 May 2010 (UTC)


The changes to this move in gen V are kinda unclear as to what the difference is, from reading it I'm not sure how it's different. Does it still chose randomly from all the resisting and immune types? Does it no longer do immune? Is the difference that it will activate from any move now instead of the last offensive move? All of the above? we need a mit of clarity it doesn't seem very idiot proof what with me being an idiot and not fully understanding what it means. —Mada-sama (Talk to me!)— 05:24, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

  • From what I understand, it changes its own type matchup only. So if Conversion 2 is used after a Dark type was used by the target, Porygon would be immune to Ghost, weak to Fighting and resist Dark type moves. Though I'm not sure about this at all, and would appreciate someone more certain to help out with this TintedLens 16:45, 25 February 2011 (UTC)


I don't want to be annoying with random facts, but was the Porygon-Z from the IV gen demonstration the same Porygon the man from Veilstone City gives you? ★☆Togetic45☆★ 10:37, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Does it matter?--ForceFire 11:29, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Changing to own type(s)

We should probably settle whether this is possible. I don't have the resources to do it for myself, but it seems easy to set up:

  1. Turn Porygon Dragon in an Inverse Battle.
  2. Hit it with a damaging Dragon move.
  3. Use Conversion 2. After a Dragon hit, the only option would become Dragon, so using the move would either fail or announce a change from Dragon to Dragon.

Since the question is focused more on testing dual-types, it only requires hitting Porygon with Forest's Curse or similar before the Dragon move. Conversion 2 would again then either fail or turn it pure Dragon. —βØ 03:29, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Ah, I hadn't considered that. I was thinking about using Conversion 2 with a Fairy/Steel-type Pokémon on a Dragon-type move in a normal battle (achieved via Reflect Type on Klefki from Smeargle). Since Inverse Battles are Single Battle only, I'd need to set up a specific Secret Base to test this, so I think the other option is going to be easier. --SnorlaxMonster 04:47, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure Inverse Dragon is the only way this can happen; it's the only type that's super effective on a single type (for Inverse), and no type is resisted by/ineffective on a single type (for regular). Even with a type where you have two options, you can't tell whether it's programmed to block one of them or if it just keeps rolling the other. (Although it might be possible to test Conversion 2 after a Foresight-boosted Ghost attack on a somehow Normal/Dark Pokémon.) —βØ 06:43, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
Nevermind, the Klefki thing makes sense. I also found another reliable way to test that latter idea, although a heavy Smeargle is required. Use Forest's Curse on a Kingdra, then Reflect Type it, then Conversion 2 after a Water attack. Water, Dragon, and Grass are the only things that resist Water, so something is bound to happen with that. (Similar options include a Normal move on a Trick-or-Treated Aron and a Ground move on a Forest's Cursed Masquerain, although both need Ring Targets.) —βØ 06:53, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
I've forest cursed a kingdra, used bubble, then conversion 2 and................ nothing happend :( - unsigned comment from Aloni (talkcontribs)

Pokemon with multiple types

Let's say a Pokémon with multiple types, say Tentacruel, uses Mimic to copy Conversion 2. If Tentacruel uses Conversion 2, will both of its types be replaced, or just its primary?--Diriector Doc (talk) 21:15, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

It changes the user's type as a whole, not just one of its types. If a Pokémon has 2 types, just like Soak, both will be replaced. --SnorlaxMonster 01:35, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

Conversion 2 vs Struggle

In Generation 3, Struggle is still considered a Normal type attack for Conversion 2 and will convert the user into the Rock, Steel, or Ghost type. --Sckalez (talk) 10:35, 15 March 2022 (UTC)