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Hey there! I saw your dispute awhile back with FinnishPokeFan95 about [[Gladion]] and the Team Skull Grunts' Trainer classes, and I think you're the one in the right, so I've been hounding them about it on their talk page and they appear to be refusing to respond to me. Since they won't discuss the matter, I would like to {{wp|wp:BeBold|Be Bold}} and correct not only that page but also all the other ones that this misconception may apply to. FinnishPokeFan95 mentioned Plasma and Flare, but since you seem to know more about the back end of things than I do, I was wondering if you know more about it or know of some resource on the Web that I can comb through myself that shows the difference between Trainer class and name for any/all of the games? Thanks! [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:21, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
Hey there! I saw your dispute awhile back with FinnishPokeFan95 about [[Gladion]] and the Team Skull Grunts' Trainer classes, and I think you're the one in the right, so I've been hounding them about it on their talk page and they appear to be refusing to respond to me. Since they won't discuss the matter, I would like to {{wp|wp:BeBold|Be Bold}} and correct not only that page but also all the other ones that this misconception may apply to. FinnishPokeFan95 mentioned Plasma and Flare, but since you seem to know more about the back end of things than I do, I was wondering if you know more about it or know of some resource on the Web that I can comb through myself that shows the difference between Trainer class and name for any/all of the games? Thanks! [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:21, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
:I don't log in as often as I used to. I'm too old for arguing about such stuff, I guess. I guess FinnishPokeFan was referring to the fact that the articles about "Team Flare" and "Team Plasma" Trainer classes refer only to non-Grunt/Admin characters that use such class because Bulbapedia has that convention of considering Grunts/Admins as separate Trainer class (even if it's not the case in the games, it's still "Team X" class + the name "Grunt") and while I'm not questioning that convention or asking to change it, I think that we shouldn't state things like "This class refers only to Gladion" because it's simply incorrect in the context of the games. With other classes (such like Flare or Plasma) there is no such problem because they refer to multiple individuals. So, we are facing a situation where Bulbapedia conventions create clash with the in-game reality. And I believe that the latter should be more important - we're a Wiki about Pokemon, not a Wiki about itself. What I propose is adding the words "except for the grunts", which do not break Bulbapedia conventions, yet remain in accordance with the in-game reality. They're a good compromise (in my opinion) but that guy doesn't want to accept it. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 15:26, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
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