Bulbapedia talk:Project TCG

Creating categories for all attacks

If it's okay, I'd like to resume this project of creating categories for all TCG attacks. This includes creating the missing attack categories from Special:WantedCategories.

At the moment, there are a few cards using "namecategory=None" so they explicitly don't have an attack category. For instance, Vikavolt-GX (Guardians Rising 45) is automatically placed in both Category:Cards with Charge Beam and Category:Cards with Super Zap Cannon but it's also using the "namecategory=None" so it's actually not in Category:Cards with Gigatron.

In the future, I'd like to remove those few instances of "namecategory=None" like that so all card attack categories can be created. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 18:17, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

To be fair, if anyone wants to discuss ideas about creating some TCG attack categories but not all of them, I suppose "namecategory=None" could potentially be used somehow. But then again, I wonder what the criteria would be. This would also require some maintenance. For instance, if we decide that hundreds of attack categories should not exist, I suppose this would probably mean adding "namecategory=None" in hundreds of card articles?

Personally, I like how this "Cards by attack" category basically works as a full list of all TCG attack names that is easily expanded when more card articles are created. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 18:36, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

We have a templating issue involving the GX attacks. The GX is part of the name of a GX attack. (Compendium entry about Altered Creation GX and Trickster GX for reference Pokemon.com article, also for reference) I think those templates are automatically adding the GX suffix, and only the inputted name is used to add the category to the page. This causes the categories created by the template to be "Gigatron", "Altered Creation", and "Trickster", which is incorrect. And while organization might prefer not including the suffix, attack names have mechanical relevance and the TCG is very particular about matching names. What if someone wants to build a Flare Blitz or Strafe deck and finds cards in those categories that have Flare Blitz GX or Strafe GX? (These are real examples of GX attacks, although none that have been called out by name yet.) I think we should double back and get the template to make correctly named categories before we do this.

Actually, now that I think about it, presumably namecategory=none was put on Vikavolt to avoid making categories of a single card, which the above change would create a lot of. That reasoning would be silly, considering the TCG still makes one off attacks even if they aren't GX attacks, and they don't get namecategory=none. Salmancer (talk) 02:03, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

About one-off attacks, currently the Category:Attack categories with 1 card has 471 categories (and more categories can be created in the future from the current redlinks).

For instance, "Fighting Fangs" appears to be used by a single card, so as a result Category:Cards with Fighting Fangs is currently a member of "Attack categories with 1 card". This kind of categorization is done by the templates, so if we ever create a new article for another card with "Fighting Fangs", then this attack category will have 2 articles and as a result be automatically moved into Category:Attack categories with 2 cards instead.

So like I was saying above, I would suggest removing "namecategory=none" from that Vikavolt-GX card and creating the category for that one-off attack. (To be fair, I wonder if anyone would prefer to argue in favor of having absolutely no one-off attack categories. But would that mean doing the work of adding "namecategory=none" to all those cards and then later removing the "namecategory=none" if the attack gets used on more cards?)

I see the links you provided call the GX attacks by their names with "GX" in running text. Pokémon.com says: "if you can’t spare the resources for Tag Bolt-GX, a timely Tapu Thunder-GX can be just as devastating to an opponent". So I understand this is confirmation that the attacks officially have "GX" in their names.

The attacks with "GX" in the name are currently being placed into categories without the "GX". So that means we have Category:Cards with Resolute Blade with two cards:

• Keldeo (Shining Legends 26) with "Resolute Blade"
• Keldeo-GX (Unified Minds 47) with "Resolute Blade-GX"

So it appears we should change this current system and create the attack categories with "GX" in the name? You know, "Category:Cards with Resolute Blade" and separately "Category:Cards with Resolute Blade-GX". --Daniel Carrero (talk) 21:43, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Articles for TCG attacks

At some point in the future, I'm thinking that move articles like Tackle (move) could explain how the moves are used in the TCG (Category:Cards with Tackle).

We might also want to talk about creating articles explaining some TCG attacks even if they are not found in the video games. For instance, something like a "Ram (attack)" or "Ram (TCG)" article comparing how this attack is used in 173 cards (Category:Cards with Ram). --Daniel Carrero (talk) 18:36, 30 January 2024 (UTC)