User talk:Nescientist

Hello!

I'm Nescientist, welcome to my talk page!

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Talk page archive:

• Archive 01 (June 2016 - Feb 2022)

Plural redirects

We just don't like them because you can use the [[pasture]]s syntax to get the link to pastures. It's that easy considering this feature of the MediaWiki software. And this applies to other links displaying as plurals, e.g. [[Badge]]s as Badges. --Bfdifan2006 _(T/C) 21:48, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

And yes, I'm talking about the Pastures redirect that was just deleted. --Bfdifan2006 _(T/C) 21:49, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

Talk page policy

While I understand I am not a staff member, and I do try to avoid focusing too much on cleaning up talk pages, I feel like my removal of the responses to comments that are over a decade old on the Masuda method talk page was justified. Force Fire has made it clear in the past that correcting old misinformation on talk pages is not necessary or important, particularly if the users that the comments are responding to have not been active in years and likely will not see them.

I am more than happy to be lenient, and I understand that cleaning up talk pages should not be the main focus of my edits (and they aren't), but responses to comments from twelve years ago seem flagrantly unnecessary and pointless, and few people will see them as most users look to the bottom of the page for new comments anyway.

If the discussion is that important to start up again, it should probably be in a new section at the bottom of the page. But to me, the discussion does not seem important. People should not be looking to the talk page for accurate up-to-date information, as that is what the main article is for. I do not believe it has ever been a priority to make sure that the talk pages have accurate information, as the talk pages are for discussing improvements to the main article, and if the improvements have already been made, and nobody disagrees, a discussion is probably not needed.

Moving forward, I will continue to be mindful not to be overzealous in removing comments, and in more ambiguous situations I will consult a staff member, but in this particular situation, I do think the comments should be removed, as to discourage the behavior. Thank you. Landfish7 13:05, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

First of all, thanks for coming here and trying to discuss with me. (I believe you're talking about this.)

I feel I should point out that I didn't criticize you or your general behavior, but just that one reversion, let's say maybe reversions of that sort in general. (Since you mentioned something about you, and your focusing on talk pages - I didn't mean that.)

As for the bottom of the page thing, I can only say that I usually at least scan the whole talk page (or the headers) before I create a new topic, and that sometimes I scan whole talk pages when trying to find information (regardless of who started any particular section, or if they're still active).

Which leads to another point you brought up, which is that talk pages shouldn't be a source of information (if that's what you're saying)? I (and other users, including staff) often use them for documentation purposes. I'd be more than happy if someone pointed out I was wrong even years after I wrote it.

Maybe you could clarify what behavior exactly you want to discourage and why? (I honestly don't see a problem with that edits.) Nescientist (talk) 17:57, 17 August 2022 (UTC)