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::Also, people refer to God as "Him" or "He" a lot of the times. May be a reference to that. [[User:Dexington|Dexington]] 03:31, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
::Also, people refer to God as "Him" or "He" a lot of the times. May be a reference to that. [[User:Dexington|Dexington]] 03:31, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Never thought of it that way, maybe.--[[User:Midnight Blue|<font color="#333333">Midnight</font> <font color="#191970">Blue</font>]] 04:26, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Never thought of it that way, maybe.--[[User:Midnight Blue|<font color="#333333">Midnight</font> <font color="#191970">Blue</font>]] 04:26, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
It's likely either a mistranslation or the anime being inconsistant with the games.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] I am the Void 20:00, 21 September 2009 (UTC)


== confused! ==
== confused! ==
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I foud this in the trivia section:
I foud this in the trivia section:
''Of the so-called "Dragon Trilogy", there has been at least one Pokémon in each film that can communicate through telepathy, Darkrai (The Rise of Darkrai), Shaymin (Giratina and the Sky Warrior) and Arceus (Arceus: To a Conquering Space-Time). Interestingly, all three Pokémon are only available through Nintendo events, all three only appeared in a single film of the trilogy and are the last three Pokémon in National Dex order.'' Will some one explain what telepathy has to do with dragons?[[User:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] 23:33, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
''Of the so-called "Dragon Trilogy", there has been at least one Pokémon in each film that can communicate through telepathy, Darkrai (The Rise of Darkrai), Shaymin (Giratina and the Sky Warrior) and Arceus (Arceus: To a Conquering Space-Time). Interestingly, all three Pokémon are only available through Nintendo events, all three only appeared in a single film of the trilogy and are the last three Pokémon in National Dex order.'' Will some one explain what telepathy has to do with dragons?[[User:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] 23:33, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:The Dragon Trilogy are Movies 10, 11, and 12. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 23:35, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
I already knew that and it dos'nt awnser my question, but thanks. I think.[[User:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] 19:59, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:It has nothing to do with dragons; it's just a connection  between the three Pokémon. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 20:04, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::By the Dragon Trilogy, it means the movies. Darkrai, Shaymin and Arceus appear in these movies alongside Dialga, Palkia and Giratina. [[User:Solar Dragon|Solar Dragon]] 20:06, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Still, how is it relevant? most movies have Pokémon that use telepathy. unless someone is making a ''very'' vague referance to dragons being able to use telepathy in Eragon or something I can't see any relation.--[[User:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] 20:10, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Considering that not all the movies have had a telepathically speaking Pokémon in them, the fact that these three recent movies, all centering on the Dragon trio, feature the three event Pokémon from DPPt speaking telepathically, is interesting to note. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 08:59, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
==Seed Flare==
Did they actually refer to it as seed flare, or did it just look like it? I doubt they would make such a huge move error in the movie. [[User:Poisson14|Poisson14]] 00:37, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
:Well arceus created the universe so the writers might have interpreted that as " this thing is able to do anything, because something that's strong enough to create the universe must be able to do any that any of it's creations can do"--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] I am the Void 20:42, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
::Also, these are the same people who think Dustox can use Stun Spore, Bagon can use Skull Bash, and PIKACHU!  AIM FOR TEH HORN!!!  Need I say more?  [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] <small>[[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]]</small> 16:08, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
:::When would he have used Seed Flare? All that I saw was Judgement, Hyper Beam, and a Dragon move or two. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 16:16, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
== VA ==
Wasn't Arceus's VA Tim Werenko? [[User:J-J-M|<span style="color: #000033">'''J'''</span>]]'''-'''[[User talk:J-J-M|<span style="color: #000099">'''J'''</span>]]'''-'''[[Special:Contributions/J-J-M|<span style="color: #000033">'''M'''</span>]] 22:35, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
:Tom Wayland said himself that he voiced Arceus. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 23:48, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
== Its Moves, Past And Present ==
Which moves did it use in the part of the film that took place in the present? Those moves were used recently. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] <sup>([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]])</sup> 01:10, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
== Movie 18 ==
Regardless of the status of most of the other legendaries, with Arceus it's fairly clear that the M12 Arceus was the same one in M18. It was described on the official movie site as a "one of a kind" Pokemon and was explicitly shown in its dimension from M12 during the credits, regardless of whether or not it spoke. What do we do here? --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] ([[User talk:The Great Butler|talk]]) 04:22, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 04:22, 18 January 2016

Later can we change the picture in the info box.

I'm sorry to say but i think the picture is not good. So maybe later if someone can get a better picture they can change it. - unsigned comment from Pokéboy93 (talkcontribs)

It's because the movie is not out yet for screenshots. We will change later on. --☆Coolピカチュウ! 07:11, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

ok oh i forgot to sign my comment oops--Pokéboy93 07:13, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

I can take care of the picture problem. --Hmdwgf 06:53, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Article name

Shouldn't the name of this article be "Arceus (movie 12)"?--Skaisdead 15:09, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

It DID only appear in this one movie.... You may have a point there. Missingno. Master wants YOU! Join the Order of the Glitch! (my talk page) 16:11, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
There's only one Arceus. We decided to keep this, the dragon trio, and Mewtwo under "anime". --electAbuzzzz 16:12, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
Let's just keep it at "Arceus (Movie 12)". I mean, if another Arceus is shown and does not recognize Ash and co, or heck, doesn't even have similar personality traits to the one in the movie, we'll end up needing to change it. Remember, there are two Mews in the Anime continuity (Three, if one counts the Mirage counterpart), and it was heavily implied in the first movie that the Mew in that movie was the last one in existance. Weedle Mchairybug 16:17, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
Yes, except canon sources leave no room for doubt in this case. It's the only one, and for now we're keeping it on this title. IF the writers go stupid and retcon that there are other Arceus out there, we'll change it. Don't move it. --electAbuzzzz 16:24, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Moves

are they really fly, seed flare etc. or are they merely the different elemental versions of judgment??--D i o n 2 4 04:09, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Uh-oh. You're about to trigger an edit war... Anyways, I think they were'nt Judgment, but Seed Flare may have been Solar Beam. But, I haven't seen the movie... --CUBONE PWNS (Planet CuboneBone Club) THE VERY BEST PAGE! 04:14, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
Judgment is not depicted as having visibly different types in the movie. It is shown as 17 meteor-like lights shooting down from a sphere at once (basically all the types at once). The Grass move used was a wave attack that looked like Seed Flare above anything else. It also shifted into its Flying forme and used an attack that levitated everything around it, which honestly sounds like something similar to Psychic or a reversed Gravity, but I think it's Fly because Arceus is shown in Flying forme when it does this. --The Great Butler 00:51, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Gender?

I saw the Swiss trailer and Arceus was refered to as a "he". YinYang 03:05, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Well maybe b/c of his male voice, but all legendary Pokémon are supposed to be genderless, with a few exceptions. It was a early trailer that was not "official", so we have to wait and see.--Midnight Blue 03:09, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Also, people refer to God as "Him" or "He" a lot of the times. May be a reference to that. Dexington 03:31, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Never thought of it that way, maybe.--Midnight Blue 04:26, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

It's likely either a mistranslation or the anime being inconsistant with the games.--Mtn otter I am the Void 20:00, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

confused!

I foud this in the trivia section: Of the so-called "Dragon Trilogy", there has been at least one Pokémon in each film that can communicate through telepathy, Darkrai (The Rise of Darkrai), Shaymin (Giratina and the Sky Warrior) and Arceus (Arceus: To a Conquering Space-Time). Interestingly, all three Pokémon are only available through Nintendo events, all three only appeared in a single film of the trilogy and are the last three Pokémon in National Dex order. Will some one explain what telepathy has to do with dragons?Mtn otter 23:33, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

The Dragon Trilogy are Movies 10, 11, and 12. Turtwig A Contributions Talk 23:35, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

I already knew that and it dos'nt awnser my question, but thanks. I think.Mtn otter 19:59, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

It has nothing to do with dragons; it's just a connection between the three Pokémon. —darklordtrom 20:04, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
By the Dragon Trilogy, it means the movies. Darkrai, Shaymin and Arceus appear in these movies alongside Dialga, Palkia and Giratina. Solar Dragon 20:06, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Still, how is it relevant? most movies have Pokémon that use telepathy. unless someone is making a very vague referance to dragons being able to use telepathy in Eragon or something I can't see any relation.--Mtn otter 20:10, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Considering that not all the movies have had a telepathically speaking Pokémon in them, the fact that these three recent movies, all centering on the Dragon trio, feature the three event Pokémon from DPPt speaking telepathically, is interesting to note. TTEchidna 08:59, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Seed Flare

Did they actually refer to it as seed flare, or did it just look like it? I doubt they would make such a huge move error in the movie. Poisson14 00:37, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Well arceus created the universe so the writers might have interpreted that as " this thing is able to do anything, because something that's strong enough to create the universe must be able to do any that any of it's creations can do"--Mtn otter I am the Void 20:42, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
Also, these are the same people who think Dustox can use Stun Spore, Bagon can use Skull Bash, and PIKACHU! AIM FOR TEH HORN!!! Need I say more? Missingno. Master wants YOU! Join the Order of the Glitch! (my talk page) 16:08, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
When would he have used Seed Flare? All that I saw was Judgement, Hyper Beam, and a Dragon move or two. R.A. Hunter Blade 16:16, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

VA

Wasn't Arceus's VA Tim Werenko? J-J-M 22:35, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Tom Wayland said himself that he voiced Arceus. --ケンジガール 23:48, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Its Moves, Past And Present

Which moves did it use in the part of the film that took place in the present? Those moves were used recently. TorchicBlaziken (talkedits) 01:10, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Movie 18

Regardless of the status of most of the other legendaries, with Arceus it's fairly clear that the M12 Arceus was the same one in M18. It was described on the official movie site as a "one of a kind" Pokemon and was explicitly shown in its dimension from M12 during the credits, regardless of whether or not it spoke. What do we do here? --The Great Butler (talk) 04:22, 18 January 2016 (UTC)