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*<small>Minimum stats are calculated with 0 [[EVs]], [[IVs]] of 0, and a hindering [[nature]]. | *<small>Minimum stats are calculated with 0 [[EVs]], [[IVs]] of 0, and a hindering [[nature]]. | ||
*Maximum stats are calculated with 252 EVs, IVs of 31, and a helpful nature.{{#if: {{{Special|}}}| | *Maximum stats are calculated with 252 EVs, IVs of 31, and a helpful nature.{{#if: {{{Special|}}}| | ||
*This Pokémon's {{background| | *This Pokémon's {{background|2F97E8| Special }} base stat in [[Generation I]] was '''{{{Special}}}'''.}}</small> | ||
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At least upgrade to this, yes? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 10:29, 19 September 2009 (UTC) | At least upgrade to this, yes? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 10:29, 19 September 2009 (UTC) | ||
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:I agree, but I can't think of an appropriate wording to correct this. Any suggestions? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 12:47, 5 January 2013 (UTC) | :I agree, but I can't think of an appropriate wording to correct this. Any suggestions? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 12:47, 5 January 2013 (UTC) | ||
::If nothing else, then how about simply using Template:Tt to include a notice stating that it does not apply to the HP stat, as it is not affected by natures? Either directly or by asterisk. There's also the issue of the current template's stat range not applying to Generation I-II, even when eliminating natures, which could be confusing to some readers. [[User:Yvnr|Yvnr]] ([[User talk:Yvnr|talk]]) 18:00, 5 January 2013 (UTC) | ::If nothing else, then how about simply using Template:Tt to include a notice stating that it does not apply to the HP stat, as it is not affected by natures? Either directly or by asterisk. There's also the issue of the current template's stat range not applying to Generation I-II, even when eliminating natures, which could be confusing to some readers. [[User:Yvnr|Yvnr]] ([[User talk:Yvnr|talk]]) 18:00, 5 January 2013 (UTC) | ||
:::Stats are calculated differently in Gen I and II anyway, so the stats need to include natures with that formula anyway. I've added a note for HP though. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 18:00, 7 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::Yes, stats are calculated differently in Generation I-II, that's what I'm bringing up. The template currently presents a stat range that only applies to Generation III-V, but leaves readers to discover on their own that this is the case. I can see how this could be considered trivial if the discrepancy was caused by the effects of natures alone, but it is not. For example, a level 100 Venusaur can reach an HP stat of 364 in Generation III-V, but not in Generation I-II, where an HP stat of 363 is the highest it can reach. [[User:Yvnr|Yvnr]] ([[User talk:Yvnr|talk]]) 19:01, 9 January 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Generation VI == | |||
Some Pokémon had their base stats changed in G6. This need some change for it, also for G1 Pokémon it should go for the old stat (since eg. in G6 Butterfree now has 90 Sp. Atk, and Sp. Def at 80, while Special was at 80, so it categorizes as "Special became its Special Defense", while it wasn't assigned any new number, since Special became both stats). [[User:Uploader|Uploader]] ([[User talk:Uploader|talk]]) 17:42, 28 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Stat calculation in [[Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!]] == | |||
Stats are calculated differently in these games. We need a separate template for these games. [[User:Wrrasba|Wrrasba]] ([[User talk:Wrrasba|talk]]) 19:03, 16 November 2018 (UTC) | |||
== Template for LGPE == | |||
I made a draft of the template for Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee. Basically just add "lgpe=yes" to include all relevant LGPE information. | |||
Template: [[User:TehPerson/Stats]] | |||
'''Test cases for with and without the lgpe field:''' | |||
'''Test: Pikachu (Partner)''' | |||
{{User:TehPerson/Stats | |||
|type=Electric | |||
|HP=45 | |||
|Attack=80 | |||
|Defense=50 | |||
|SpAtk=75 | |||
|SpDef=60 | |||
|Speed=120}} | |||
{{User:TehPerson/Stats | |||
|lgpe=yes | |||
|type=Electric | |||
|HP=45 | |||
|Attack=80 | |||
|Defense=50 | |||
|SpAtk=75 | |||
|SpDef=60 | |||
|Speed=120}} | |||
'''Test: Mewtwo''' | |||
{{User:TehPerson/Stats | |||
|type=psychic | |||
|HP=106 | |||
|Attack=110 | |||
|Defense=90 | |||
|SpAtk=154 | |||
|SpDef=90 | |||
|Special=154 | |||
|Speed=130}} | |||
{{User:TehPerson/Stats | |||
|lgpe=yes | |||
|type=psychic | |||
|HP=106 | |||
|Attack=110 | |||
|Defense=90 | |||
|SpAtk=154 | |||
|SpDef=90 | |||
|Special=154 | |||
|Speed=130}} | |||
'''Test: Chansey''' | |||
{{User:TehPerson/Stats | |||
|HP=250 | |||
|Attack= 5 | |||
|Defense= 5 | |||
|SpAtk= 35 | |||
|SpDef= 105 | |||
|Special=105 | |||
|Speed= 50 | |||
|type=Normal }} | |||
{{User:TehPerson/Stats | |||
|lgpe=yes | |||
|HP= 250 | |||
|Attack= 5 | |||
|Defense= 5 | |||
|SpAtk= 35 | |||
|SpDef= 105 | |||
|Special=105 | |||
|Speed= 50 | |||
|type=Normal }} | |||
'''Test: Melmetal''' | |||
{{User:TehPerson/Stats | |||
|type=Steel | |||
|HP=135 | |||
|Attack=143 | |||
|Defense=143 | |||
|SpAtk=80 | |||
|SpDef=65 | |||
|Speed=34 | |||
}} | |||
{{User:TehPerson/Stats | |||
|lgpe=yes | |||
|type=Steel | |||
|HP=135 | |||
|Attack=143 | |||
|Defense=143 | |||
|SpAtk=80 | |||
|SpDef=65 | |||
|Speed=34 | |||
}} | |||
<s>Due to how AVs are now calculated and different battle modes to include or exclude AVs, they have all been calculated separately. One only has to add 200 AVs or assume 0 AVs to get the minimum/maximum ranges.</s> [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 15:23, 1 December 2018 (UTC) | |||
: EDIT: Nevermind. AVs have just been factored into the calculations. Might as well just keep it simple. [[User:TehPerson|TehPerson]] ([[User talk:TehPerson|talk]]) 19:40, 1 December 2018 (UTC) | |||
== Wider == | |||
Could this template be a little bit wider? It unnecessarily breaks into two lines when defense is 100 or higher and the bottom text could also take less space. | |||
https://ibb.co/vH2cPmx - how it looks now | |||
https://ibb.co/jz8grBQ - how it could look (set width of first and third+fourth column to 100 and 140px) | |||
--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span>]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]]''' 11:39, 6 March 2022 (UTC) | |||
:For my PLA stat template, I used a flexbox (but not a responsive one): it has {{User:C.Ezra.M/code|flex-wrap}} not set (so {{User:C.Ezra.M/code|nowrap}}), and {{User:C.Ezra.M/code|justify-content}} set to {{User:C.Ezra.M/code|space-between}}. It is not responsive, because it does not need to be (it's here rather to prevent the line break), so {{User:C.Ezra.M/code|max-width}} is not set. As for the two words in there, I used the same two divs as in the current template, except that their {{User:C.Ezra.M/code|float}} properties are removed, and these now have {{User:C.Ezra.M/code|display}} set to {{User:C.Ezra.M/code|inline-block}}. Because the flexbox's {{User:C.Ezra.M/code|justify-content}} is set to {{User:C.Ezra.M/code|space-between}}, these have the maximum possible gap between them, without having to use {{User:C.Ezra.M/code|float}} properties. --'''''[[User:C.Ezra.M|<font color="turquoise">C.Ezra.M</font>]]''''' <sub>([[User talk:C.Ezra.M|<font color="lime">T</font>]]/[[Special:Contributions/C.Ezra.M|<font color="orange">C</font>]])</sub> 15:34, 6 March 2022 (UTC) | |||
::I've slightly increased the column width, so this should no longer occur on the Vector skin (it was not occurring on Monobook). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 15:56, 29 March 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Editable stat chart for custom mons == | |||
Would it be possible to add a chart to this page that you can change to whatever stats you want? There aren't any sites that let you put custom base stats, and this would probably be the best place to do so. I don't know how hard it would be to do that, at least not making a new example chart every time. [[User:RavioliEX|RavioliEX]] ([[User talk:RavioliEX|talk]]) 15:52, 5 May 2022 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 12:34, 26 May 2024
Usage
The average of all 386 Pokémon (assuming Deoxys is in Neutral mode):
{{Stats| HP=66.2 | Attack=71.5 | Defense=68.6 | SpAtk=66.4 | SpDef=67.6 | Speed=64.3 }} But... How are we going to use this on the Glitched Pokémon?--Pokencyclopedia 12:11, 6 December 2008 (UTC) SuggestingHow about adding the stats for Lv1 and/or Lv5 (egg levels in IV/II&III)? UltimateSephiroth (about me · chat · edits) 12:33, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Do the bars really have to be centered?The bar graphs made a lot more visual comparitive sense when they were left justified; when they're centered like this it's just really awkward looking. I highly suggest making them left justified again like they used to be positioned. ~Toastypk - Loom. 18:11, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Colors?Dragonite (Pokémon)#Base stats's box is dark purple. Black on dark purple is certainly readable (with the added disclaimer of "eventually", for some of the less visual readers), but it doesn't look nice. However, if using white text, then the light purple part has less contrast. You can have two font colors, but that's introducing inconsistency. Thoughts? --Raijinili 03:34, 8 May 2009 (UTC) Redesign process
So how about...
And if you don't like that one
At least upgrade to this, yes? TTEchidna 10:29, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
LinksWhy are the stat names not linking? --SnorlaxMonster 02:45, 31 July 2010 (UTC) Defense bar does not align correctlySince this is supposed to be used for visual comparison, this might be an issue, but for me the defense title is a bit longer than all the others, so the bar starts a little further to the right, and thus appears longer at a first glance. It may be because I'm on Ubuntu and tthus using their fonts (I expect the template was designed on Windows). If the titles were all made a little bit longer (I'm not really sure how much - 10 to 20 pixels should do it), it would fix the problem. It's not a big deal, but I just thought I'd point it out. Dendodge 10:31, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
HP-affecting naturesThe current template implies the existence of HP-affecting natures. Yvnr (talk) 12:33, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
Generation VISome Pokémon had their base stats changed in G6. This need some change for it, also for G1 Pokémon it should go for the old stat (since eg. in G6 Butterfree now has 90 Sp. Atk, and Sp. Def at 80, while Special was at 80, so it categorizes as "Special became its Special Defense", while it wasn't assigned any new number, since Special became both stats). Uploader (talk) 17:42, 28 October 2013 (UTC) Stat calculation in Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!Stats are calculated differently in these games. We need a separate template for these games. Wrrasba (talk) 19:03, 16 November 2018 (UTC) Template for LGPEI made a draft of the template for Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee. Basically just add "lgpe=yes" to include all relevant LGPE information. Template: User:TehPerson/Stats Test cases for with and without the lgpe field: Test: Pikachu (Partner)
Test: Mewtwo
Test: Chansey
Test: Melmetal
WiderCould this template be a little bit wider? It unnecessarily breaks into two lines when defense is 100 or higher and the bottom text could also take less space. https://ibb.co/vH2cPmx - how it looks now https://ibb.co/jz8grBQ - how it could look (set width of first and third+fourth column to 100 and 140px) --Rocket Grunt 11:39, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
Editable stat chart for custom monsWould it be possible to add a chart to this page that you can change to whatever stats you want? There aren't any sites that let you put custom base stats, and this would probably be the best place to do so. I don't know how hard it would be to do that, at least not making a new example chart every time. RavioliEX (talk) 15:52, 5 May 2022 (UTC) |