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Talk:List of Pokémon that appear in every regional Pokédex

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Platinum extensions?

Well, technically Magnemite and Magneton have been, too...

Maybe a special section for the ones in every regional Dex due to Platinum?

Maybe have it based on "since the generation they were introduced" too? TTEchidna 21:07, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

I think's better to include Magnemite and Magneton too... but pointing that they were absent only in Diamond and Pearl but they ARE present in the Sinnoh Dex. hfc2X 00:13, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Don't forget the Rhyhorn family. But should their new evolutions be included? - PDL

Pichu and Scizor aren't in the Kanto dex, so no. TTEchidna 22:23, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Right then... PDL 22:26, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

I just added them, as I saw no reason not to. I just added a small tidbit in a trivia section. Gligar 00:35, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

But as well...

We shouldn't discount something like Crobat completely. Sure, it wasn't in the Kanto Dex, but it has been in every dex since it was introduced.

Since I doubt we're ever going back to Hoenn or Sinnoh like we did with Kanto and will with Johto... why shouldn't we do this? Or something... TTEchidna 00:59, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

I understand what you're saying. The only problem is that most of the Generation IV and Generation III Pokémon will be all on here... ht14 00:31, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
Exactly. If we followed the logic of "List of Pokémon that have been in every regional Pokédex since their introduction", which is a mouthful, we'd have several Generation III Pokémon and all but seven Generation IV Pokémon. Gligar 01:36, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Here is my logic: "List of Pokemon that have been in every regional Pokédex following their debut" That way, no Generation IV Pokemon are included, and only several Generation III Pokemon will be included. I'm going to go through with the changes. Feel free to change back if nescesarry User:Mudkip28
I was thinking that we shouldn't include the Gen IVs because they haven't been in any but their own. Once Gen V's regional dex comes out then we can do it. TTEchidna 18:57, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
Should we start creating sections with "since Johto" and "since Hoenn"? Gligar 10:44, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

It's clearly not a good idea. Just keep this list as is and make no more. hfc2X 03:29, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Well incase it is... These are Johto and Hoenn Pokemon here, that appeared in every Dex since their introduction (minus Gen IV)

Johto-Hoenn-Sinnoh Dex: Crobat, Marill, Azumarill, Pichu, Girafarig, Heracross

Hoenn-Sinnoh Dex: Roselia, Wurmple, Silcoon, Cascoon, Beautifly, Dustox, Barboach, Whiscash, Meditite, Medicham, Chimecho, Wingull, Pelipper, Azurill, Feebas, Milotic

Hoenn-Sinnoh(Pt) Dex:

Over and out. Gligar 16:00, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

I know that the post above is somewhat old, but I would like to give my support for this idea. There are most likely several Pokémon that were not in the original 151, but have since become standards. I don't think that anything from Gen. IV should be included, but Pokémon from generations before the current one would be nice to include. Maybe put a disclamer, something like "The Pokémon below only fit if the phrase 'every regional Pokédex' is taken less literally, and is instead interpreted to mean 'Pokémon that appear in every regional Pokédex since their introduction'. As every Gen. IV Pokémon in the Sinnoh Dex would fit this definition, they are not included. Also, Pokémon not appearing in a remake's regional Pokédex are not disqualified." Goldenpoke111 01:11, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
My suggestion would be to add a new section under the current article, named I dunno, "Since Generation II", and then list the Pokemon that have been present in every one since generation II, excluding any from the first list. Then the same for Generations III and IV. I made a proof of concept [1]. MK 20:05, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Hoenn Dex

Should Pokémon in the Hoenn Dex (technically) from 203-386 be included? If so, Pokes like Scyther would be allowed here. Gligar 18:26, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

No, that's not really an official extension to the Hdex. I dunno what it was for, but it wasn't official. TTEchidna 18:56, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
Maybe they did it because it was the only way to keep those Pokémon inside the game data. Maybe was the only way to do it at that time. hfc2X 04:41, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Pokemon available in every game without trading

If I made this list, would it be worth keeping? For the record, that is: Pikachu, Zubat, Goldbat, Abra, Kadabra, Machop, Machoke, Geodude, Graveller, Magnemite, Magneton Ryhorn and Rydon. Idantlol 22:51, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

No, because it's essentially a subset of this list. (And the list isn't 100% correct, but still). —darklordtrom 08:31, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Remove "since generation III"

Of course they're going to put Pokémon from Hoenn into the Sinnoh Pokédex. I don't think it's necessary... For now. When Black and White come out, sure, it'll be fine up there... CuboneKing 21:03, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

page

Should this page be kept after BW are released, if the recent bn article is true? If it is, this list will be pointless because no Pokémon will be in every Pokédex, the Generation Vs only appear in Isshu Dex, the Generation Is, who were the only ones on the true list will no longer be because they aren't in Isshu Dex. For the Generation IIs, IIIs, and IVs, it's basically the same thing. Turtwig's A-B-Cs (talk | contribs) 20:12, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

We'll see when it comes. Personally, I'd favour deletion over renaming to "List of Pokémon that appear in every regional Pokédex before Generation V". —darklordtrom 11:45, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
"List of Pokémon that appear in every regional Pokédex in Japan" :3c --Pyritie 12:18, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Why "...in Japan"? In japanese versions of BW the Unova dex is also completely filled with Gen V Pokemon, so, I don't know why that name. --Gabo 2oo 04:27, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
I think Pyritie is referring to the idea that the first four generations are based on Japan while Isshu/Unova is based on the USA. Nytik 19:25, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

From Generation IV

Tangrowth, Mamoswine, Lickilicky, Yanmega, and Ambipom have also appeared in every possible regional Pokédex since their debut (Sinnoh and Johto). However, the template doesnt show an option for the Johto dex if Gen IV is selected.Vuvuzela2010 Δ 13:27, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Fixed.--MisterE13 01:32, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Pokémon Black 2 and White 2 Pokédex expansion

The Unova Pokédex for Pokémon Black 2 and White 2 will be expanded, similar to Platinum's expansion. PDL 02:52, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

appears in more than one pokedex

can't we just have a list that have pokemon which appears in more than one pokedex instead? some pokemon are repeated in more than one game, but not really appears in all pokedex. however all kanto pokemon will be listed since they appears in johto's too. -Pokeant 07:21, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

That's exactly what this page does. And no, while all of kanto have appeared on the johto des, they didn't appear in the hoenn or sinnoh dex.--ForceFire 07:44, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
my point is appears in MORE THAN ONE pokedex, not ALL pokedex. -Pokeant 07:52, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
This page isn't about appearing in more than one, it's about appearing in every regional dex, sans Unova dex.--ForceFire 07:58, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
Is it worth creating a appears in more than one pokedex list or changing this page? -Pokeant 16:00, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Actually, Sinnoh and Kalos also have Gen I Pokèmon in them. Not all 151 of them, of course, but at least one fourth of the Sinnohdex and one third of the Kalosdex. And Hoenn has quite a few Gen II's in it (mainly what we call "Johto-based evolution lines", half of them are also in Hoenn.) 2007!Unova (i see RBGY taking place in 1995, GSC in 1998, RSE in 2001, DPPt in 2004, BW1 in 2007, BW2 in 2009, and XY in 2012.) is really the only one without any previous-gen Pokès in it. Kaiko Mikkusu (talk) 10:00, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Doesn't make sense

Part of this article just doesn't make any sense. We've got the Pokemon that have been every Pokedex since Gen III, so that's the Hoenn, Sinnoh, and New Unova Dexes. Then you've got the Pokemon that have been every Pokedex since Gen IV, and this time you're counting Sinnoh, Johto, and New Unova. And while those 4 Pokemon have been every Pokedex since Gen IV (Sinnoh, Johto, and New Unova), the Gen III list of Pokemon, which you're saying is from Gen III onwards, haven't appeared in the Johto Dex. So by that logic, the Gen III Pokemon shouldn't be listed, as they haven't been in every Pokedex since Gen III. Don't Hug Lucario! (talk) 17:53, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

From what I can tell, they article's not actually counting Johto in Gen IV (or any remake, otherwise none of the Gen III Pokémon would be here due to FR/LG), it just happens that all the Pokémon in Gen IV that have been in all the regional dexes just happened to be in the New Johto one. Might as well put that there than in Trivia. - Blazios talk 19:01, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
Well then I think the Gen IV Johto Dex shouldn't be counted, and so the Gen IV Pokemon would be the ones that are in Sinnoh and New Unova. It would make a lot more sense that way. Don't Hug Lucario! (talk) 13:54, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Mantyke

Mantyke appears in Sdex and Udex. Why isn't it in Generation IV onward? --Abcboy (talk) 17:40, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

I'm guessing it is because it isn't in the HGSS Regional Dex, unlike the Pokémon listed under Generation IV onward. Should we still add Mantyke? Torpoleon (talk) 18:49, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
We shouldn't because it doesn't appear there in the Johto Gen IV Pokédex. And the article does state that the Pokémon that appears in Gen IV onward also appear in the HGSS dex. - Clubchloe1 18:58, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
Should we remove everything from Generation III onward because none of them appear in FRLG or HGSS dexes? --Abcboy (talk) 21:40, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
It's a tough thing. Before the Unova expansion, the Generation IV was accounted for Pokémon in both Sinnoh and Neo Johto listing (as Unova had none of old Pokémon). Now as the expansion added many old Pokémon... Marked +-+-+ (talk) 17:54, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
We have two routes. One is to remove all of Generation III's or to remove Jdex from Generation IV and add the missing ones such as Mantyke, Budew, Roserade, Riolu, Lucario, Shinx, and a bunch of others. --Abcboy (talk) 01:42, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
There's also Buneary, Lopunny, Leafeon, Glaceon, Combee, Vespiquen, Buizel, and Floatzel. --Abcboy (talk) 03:52, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
If the Jdex was removed from Gen IV, the Gen IV list would just be everything from Gen IV that was in Black 2/White 2's dex. - Blazios talk 08:00, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
Which is similar to what Gen IV's entry used to look like. I'm all for that, perhaps with a note that a few were also included in the expanded Johto Dex.--MisterE13 08:27, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
I like this idea the best. Everyone else down for it? Torpoleon (talk) 20:50, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
I'd prefer it that way as wellPDL (talk) 23:52, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Should it be noted that NO Pokémon is in all regional dexes?

I mean think about it, in Pokémon Black no Pokémon from previous generations were included in the regional dex of that game.

Personally I think it should say something in the beginning of the article like that.

Yeah, later games do extend the PokéDexes, but it doesn't change the fact that no Pokémon is in the regional dex of the first games the regional PokéDexes were in. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 19:57, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Added a note roughly to that effect in the lede. Obviously, this list relies on the unstated assumption that the original version (BW, DP, GSC) and expanded version (B2W2, Pt, HGSS) are the same Dex, which it sounds like you're disagreeing with. We all know that no Pokemon would be on this list if it counted every edition of every Dex separately, so I think for the purposes of this list, it's better to lump together original/expanded as different versions of the same Dex. Do you see what I mean? (I'm not sure if I'm explaining myself well.) Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 21:42, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, that note is good enough. And don't worry, I do understand what you mean. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 18:09, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Missing pokemon?

Is there a reason that Jigglypuff/Wigglytuff, Lickitung and Onix aren't on the list of Pokemon that are in every Pokedex? - unsigned comment from Jsladden (talkcontribs)

As far as I can tell, Jigglypuff and Wigglytuff do belong here (but someone please correct me if I'm wrong). But Lickitung and Onix aren't technically in the Hoenn Pokedex; all 386 Pokemon at that time had numbers we could pull out of the data by hacking (which is why those numbers are on the wiki), but only those that appeared in Hoenn (#001-202) displayed their Hoenn Pokedex numbers on-screen, so they're the only ones that *technically* count as "in the Hoenn Pokedex". Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 16:39, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
(Rariouyai, (talk) not of Pallet 02:45, 19 January 2014 (UTC))Geodude it's another Pokémon that's missing in the list.
Geodude wasn't in the new Unova dex.--ForceFire 03:06, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Overhaul Idea

I was thinking about ways we could make this page more useful so I made a new listing here which is unfinished but gets the point across. I think it could replace this page or perhaps be a new page itself. It would eliminate the need for this page as well. Let me know what you think. EV Love (talk) 01:39, 22 March 2014 (UTC)