User talk:Transfinite

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It's nice and all that you're trimming the trivia that we don't need, but could you not use such vulgar language? We are a children's site and a good majority of users and viewers might make up that demographic, so could you refrain from it please? Thank you. --P S Yライダー 00:50, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Trivia Removal

I would think being version counterparts would actually be quite notable triva? (to be clearer, I mean the edits to Ekans, Sandshrew, Mankey, Meowth, etc.). XVuvuzela2010X 13:08, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

It's speculation. There's no actual evidence that they are version counterparts. --Transfinite | Talk 13:14, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
It's not speculation, most replace the other on the same locations in each version. Take Ekans and Sandshrew for instance, in Red and Blue respectively, both are found only on routes 4, 11 and 23, at the same levels with the same encounter rates. XVuvuzela2010X 13:30, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
And there are no other similarities between them. Version exclusives are not automatically counterparts, unless officially stated. Besides, the trivia sections are overloaded with useless nonsense that clutters the page and makes it look unprofessional; is it seriously that important of a thing to include? --Transfinite | Talk 13:33, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
Well most version exclusives are considered to be counterparts. Though I agree with you about the trivia sections, they are untidy, but unfortunately Bulbapedia dosen't have an official trivia policy, just this draft one, which has been sitting around for ages, but for some reason it is yet to be approved. But you could always try getting things added to it or something. XVuvuzela2010X 13:47, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
Considered by fans. Fanon is not official information. --Transfinite | Talk 13:49, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
Not everything has to be officialy announced, if it is accepted by pretty much everyone it is probably fine to add, though I'd check with an admin first. If everything had to be official, there would be no origin sections on Bulbapedia, since almost all of them are pure speculation. XVuvuzela2010X 13:56, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
Go read the fanon article. Bulbapedia is not a repository for your useless speculation. --Transfinite | Talk 13:56, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
Well they are considered to be counterparts (officialy) but I can't be bothered arguing and I wont revert your edits. XVuvuzela2010X 14:07, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
Oh my god, do you seriously think "officially" means "something a lot of fans believe"? Seriously?! --Transfinite | Talk 14:11, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
I was referring to Game Freak, not the fandom. Seriously. XVuvuzela2010X 14:16, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
Oh, so there was a press release or GF blog article stating that Sandshrew and Ekans are counterparts? --Transfinite | Talk 14:18, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
If its in the game code, it is considered official. It doesn't have to bee actually spoken. There has been no official comment on Keldeo, Meloetta and Genesect, but they are still in the game code. So until Game Freak speaks of them, will you not consider them to be Pokemon? XVuvuzela2010X 14:24, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
What part of the game code denotes them as counterparts? This is the stupidest fucking thing. --Transfinite | Talk 14:25, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
He was just using game code as a comparable example. No need to go overboard. I also don't see why similarities can't be something included. Maybe not state that they are counterparts, since we don't have any proof of it, but I have no problem with listing the similarities. MaverickNate 14:32, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
They shouldn't be included because they are stupid, pointless, and subjective. The goal should be to reduce the amount of trivia, not to increase it. Otherwise, if the similarities between Ekans and Sandshrew are noted, would this be okay?:

Wingull shares its catch rate of 190 with Chinchou, another dual-typed Water Pokémon (although it is part Electric, not Flying). Chinchou and Wingull are also similar in that they evolve two levels apart, Chinchou evolving at level 27 and Wingull at level 25. Further, they both have 50/50 gender ratios, and their Almia Browser numbers are 10 apart (Wingull's is 78 and Chinchou's is 88). It should also be noted that their Dream World abilities, Rain Dish and Water Absorb, both recover HP when in the presence of water, though the exact mechanisms are different.

Seriously, I am going to go add that right now if you think these bogus so-called "similarities" warrant being mentioned. --Transfinite | Talk 14:40, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
There's no need to be an ass. There are similarities between Sandshrew and Ekans, particularly regarding where they could be obtained in the first two generations. Sandshrew was exclusive to Blue on certain routes, whereas Ekans could only be found in Red on the same routes. Ditto for Gold and Silver, respectively, except now in Gold you could buy an Ekans at the Game Corner, and Sandshrew was offered for the same price in Silver. Yes, there are many differences between Sanshrew and Ekans, and in turn Sandslash and Arbok, and they aren't counterparts to the degree that, say, Zangoose and Seviper are. But unlike your over-the-top-ridiculous comparison between Chinchou and Wingull, it's made fairly obvious that Sandshrew and Ekans filled identical roles in opposing games, at least for the first two generations. And I think that's the kind of thing that makes good trivia, as opposed to silly things like sprite or stat trivia. --AndyPKMN (talk) 15:04, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
k I'll stop editing trivia sections. --Transfinite | Talk 15:18, 22 April 2011 (UTC)


The comment you made here goes against our Code of Conduct. Particularly under the section "Writing on talk pages in five words". I know it can be irritating when users ask about the trivia ban but it is are still legitimate questions and the users who ask them deserve to be spoken to with respect. Please mind what you say around other users. Thank you. --ケンジガール 11:02, 31 August 2011 (UTC)


You have been warned before of your behavior and language usage. If you have a disagreement with someone, you don't swear at them or tell them "You are every thing that is wrong with this wiki". Especially not admins. Maverick Nate works hard every day on the TCG. When you come back, please tone it down. Thank you. --ケンジガール 08:29, 19 September 2011 (UTC)


Please don't fly off the handle on other users, like Nate. It is unacceptable how you "discussed" the situation with Nate, and I am particularly unhappy with how you referred him as "everything that is wrong with the wiki" and it wasn't even directed at me. Don't do it again or one week will be paltry in comparison. -- MAGNEDETH 00:59, 8 October 2011 (UTC)