Talk:Sinjoh Ruins

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It is not a part of any known region, but its entry is found in Johto.

"Entry" being Ruins of Alph? I'm doing the event right now, and the map says the Shinto Ruins are located in far northeast Johto... Frugali 09:31, 27 September 2009 (UTC)


Since Shinto Ruins are in northeast Johto, its name is a combination of Shin'ō (Sinnoh) and Jōto (Johto), and it has the legends of Johto and Sinnoh, has anyone thought that, like the Tohjo Falls, Shinto Ruins might connect the Johto region to the Sinnoh region?alec9 * - * 13:49, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Believe it or not, it's there already. —darklordtrom 04:33, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

The info box.

It's a little confusing, the location says "North of Johto" and the region says, "Johto". If we can, can we change it a little? And supposedly, we are not sure where the location is.--Midnight Blue 05:17, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

On a similar note, Faraway Island says that it's in Hoenn, even though you aren't anywhere on the PokéNav's map when you're there. Shouldn't it be listed as "Outside of Hoenn", much like this should read "Outside of Johto"?--Purimpopoie 13:39, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
If you put "North of Johto" in the region, the map automatically changes into "File:North of Johto Shinto Ruins map.png" --Gabo 2oo 15:02, 30 January 2010 (UTC)instead of "File:Johto Shinto Ruins map.png".
^No it doesn't--ForceFire 15:06, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Returning after the event

Is it possible to get back to the Shinto Ruins after doing the event? Blueapple128 01:20, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

I'd say highly likely no, if you got your DPG already. If you used the Abra to teleport back to New Bark, though, you can go back later on. TTEchidna 01:40, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
You can, actually. If you take the Arceus down to the ruins themselves, you can teleport back there... I went through the 'secret' way with the four-items room (the first one to be exact), I have no idea if it works with the normal entrance. Investigating! ▫▪Ťïňắ 19:33, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
So um... guess who just got a Dialga *and* a Giratina from that event... am I really the first one to discover this? O_o; I used two different Arceus though, if that matters... going to try and get Palkia too with the same one. ▫▪Ťïňắ 19:40, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
So you can get all three from one? And do it more than once with different Arceus?--FlyingSkymin23 20:00, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
With the way it looks right now, you'll need three different Arceus to get in this place to get all three of the dragons. If you guys want proof or anything I can take pictures... ▫▪Ťïňắ 20:04, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
Okay, using the third different Arceus I had... didn't work. Anyone with HGSS want to have a go at investigating this? Yes? No? ▫▪Ťïňắ 20:22, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
So... maybe another entrance?--FlyingSkymin23 20:29, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
Investigation... underway... TTEchidna 20:48, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
What does this have to do with Looker?--FlyingSkymin23 22:14, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
Um... observation... Looker observes... ht14 22:27, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
So let me get this straight. There's a main entrance, and another one in the first hidden room. I was only aware of one entrance. If they made another one, there's gotta be one more. Also after you used the main entrance, what happens to it?--FlyingSkymin23 22:49, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
I oddly haven't gotten it to work with any of my other Arceus (I have three). Tina says she used a Hall of Origin Arceus to do the event, though, and a TRU event Arceus brought her back there with the secret way... TTEchidna 23:02, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
Is it in the game code?--FlyingSkymin23 23:08, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Real-life pictures

Would it be prudent to either list, give examples or have a small gallery of the pictures from the event? It's a unique enough even to warrant more than just a trivia mention, I think. Plus, I like astronomy, and (in order) they show the Horsehead Nebula, the Rosette Nebula, the Ring Nebula, the Orion Nebula, and later the Andromeda Galaxy. I don't know any of the cities or buildings though. Jazzmoth 02:53, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Would someone anwser my question below?

Ok, here is my question, Can you do this with a cheated Arceus? I want to know because my friend has 5 cheated Arceus. Happy Holidays, User:?????

Any Arceus which has the fateful encounter flag set can be used for this, cheated or not. If you nabbed the one from Spear Pillar, I don't believe you can, though, as it has no fateful encounter flag set. TTEchidna 08:39, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Okay I lied. As long as it's from the Hall of Origin or something. TTEchidna 23:03, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Sinjoh Ruins

Serebii says that's the US name, but with the Lyra/Ethan stuff, I don't know whether you guys'd like to wait. --Bulbafan 22:54, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Yup. We're going to wait for the game to come out (or at least see a good, official source that isn't just Serebii) --ZestyCactus 22:58, 2 February 2010 (UTC)


Because the page is locked (stupid gunjumpers...) I can't add the Legendary Pokémon locations template. Would an admin care to add it? --AndyPKMN 01:01, 12 March 2010 (UTC)


This a nitpicky request, but in the Name Origin section, the word Sinjoh would technically be called a blend of Sinnoh and Johto rather than a portmanteau. Then, you could get rid of the clumsy description that it uses "the beginning [of Johto] rather than the end." Just a little professional opinion. ;) Jazzmoth 08:53, 13 March 2010 (UTC)


Bulbapedia user Tina discovered a way to revisit the Sinjoh Ruins with the Arceus obtained from the Hall of Origin. TTEchidna made a video about that. Should we note that in the article?--SeanWheeler 21:14, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Really would prefer it if specific names weren't mentioned, but yeah, I think it should be noted in the article... now that we've got more than just one person revisiting the event (and actually SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT IT rage). I don't really know where or how I'd incorporate it in the article though D: ▫▪Ťïňắ 21:20, 6 April 2010 (UTC) revealed this two months ago. --HoennMaster 21:29, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Done.--SeanWheeler 21:47, 6 April 2010 (UTC)


When I got my Giratina from the event, it didn't have Shadow Sneak.Any reason why?--FlyingSkymin23 17:05, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Because it's not supposed to? Giratina doesn't get Shadow Sneak in HGSS until like, what, level 19? And doesn't learn it at all in DPPt. ▫▫ティナ 18:26, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
I thought it was supposed to have a special move when you did the event? I'm confused.
Sry I forgot sig.--FlyingSkymin23 18:35, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
It's not. It's just a level up move. All Giratina know Dragonbreath and Scary Face if you got it from Sinjoh. For a while it was thought to be an event move due to how Corocoro(?) reported it before HGSS was out, but afterwards people learned it was just a level up move. ▫▫ティナ 18:40, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
Thanks Tina. I feel so stupid.--FlyingSkymin23 18:44, 31 May 2010 (UTC)


"The background music in this area is an arrangement of themes used in and on Mt. Coronet and the Distortion World, indicating a possible connection." Is this really trivia? There's an obvious connection; this music plays in places where dialga palkia and giratina can be obtained. Anything beyond that is fan peculation and not information.Bug Catcher Wade 03:39, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

I'm going to agree here. The music played is related to Dialgia, Palkia and Giratina, not Mt. Coronet or the Distortion World. --SnorlaxMonster 02:21, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

About the event and its images...

Shall I upload the images from the games? Where should I put it? How should I name them? (The photographs) Turtwig Lover 03:57, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, they could be useful, but I don't know if we need them. I would say File:Sinjoh Ruins event #.png where # is the number that the photo appeared. So for the first photo that appeared, File:Sinjoh Ruins event 1.png. However, I don't we really want them—perhaps upload them to PidgiWiki for now (you better check with Immewnity first). If not, then even Photobucket or Imageshack is good. --SnorlaxMonster 04:15, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
We want them and that naming scheme is good. —darklordtrom 04:32, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
50 images, including the first 3 effect images, then 3 Arceus (Inverted, Normal, Eye Only), 4 photos, 8 weird art (the last one gets reused for the rest of the event), 30 photos again, 2 eggs (one cracked). It totals 2 MB. They are all in PNG format. Should I include the ones that AREN'T photos? Turtwig Lover 08:23, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

About the music

I'm listening to the music closely right now, and I realized that it's an arrangement of not only Mt. Coronet and Distortion World background music. It contains the following (in this order):

  • Mt. Coronet snowy area music
  • Distortion World music
  • Music from the D/P/Pt intro cinematic (Azure flute music)
  • An excerpt of Spear Pillar theme (or Dialga/Palkia battle music)
  • An excerpt of Giratina's Platinum battle music

It seems worth mentioning, but idk how to make it less bulky. hfc2X 03:57, 7 January 2011 (UTC)