Talk:Gary's Electivire

Electabuzz...?

Is it me, or didn't Gary have an Electabuzz at one point? If so, wouldn't it be more logical to say that it probably evolved rather than Gary having caught Electivire in the wild? Maybe it is just me... β0 08:18, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

It wasn't revelaed whether Gary caught it as an Electabuzz.--Force ^Fire talk 08:20, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

If Gary ever had an Electabuzz, I doubt it would have escaped our rabid anime fans' notice for this long. If you really think he had one, find the episode to cite as your source. --((Marton imos)) 08:26, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Interesting, I thought he did. So I guess it was my random mind after all... β0 08:28, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Notability

All right everyone, after checking section 3 of this policy, do any of you still think Electivire deserves its own page? Its only major role was its debut, where it sent Team Rocket blasting off and defeated Pikachu. Its other two appearances weren't any more than background supporting roles. GamerGeek 05:23, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Electivire had a major impact on the plot. It was the source through which Ash learned about the unique Pokémon in the Sinnoh region, had a very notable battle, played an important role in all of its appearances which were more than just a "background supporting role". So, I see no reason to question its notability. Adyniz — Wanna talk? 05:55, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Um, what? It made only three appearances (at least thus far, but I doubt Gary would ever use it again), and the only part of its history which is a reasonable size was its battle with Team Rocket and Pikachu, and battling doesn't contribute to a Pokémon's notability. Also, what major impact did it have on the plot? GamerGeek 06:35, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Ash learned about the unique Pokémon in the Sinnoh region after seeing Electivire for the first time, that is the first major plot impact. In DP045, Electivire was the one who helped out in protecting Shieldon, the featured Pokémon. It battled against Saturn's Toxicroak in DP151, fought for the Lake guardians and it helped in stopping Hunter J on a few occasions as well. These appearances are more than enough to keep this article. Adyniz — Wanna talk? 06:47, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Ok, those are all good points, I'm not necessarily saying that it should be deleted, and it's at least more notable than say, Paul's Magmortar and Trip's Conkeldurr (both of which, for the record, might actually have to be deleted, but I'll save those discussions for later). I brought this up for Electivire first because Gary's the first main rival of the series, and my personal definition of notability for these articles is whether you can say more about them than can go in the trainer's article and/or the anime section of the species articles. Electivire's article is pretty short, and I could easily condense it and place all the info in Gary's page. GamerGeek 07:26, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

So, can we reach a general consensus? I'll understand it if others want this page to stay, but I'm personally on the fence with this one. GamerGeek 06:08, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

As the head of Project Anime, I say it has enough reason to stay here. Magmotar and Conkeldurr as well. --ケンジのガール 06:18, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

All right then (but shouldn't we discuss Magmortar and Conkeldurr on their pages?). GamerGeek 06:38, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

No, it has already been discussed a lot of times in the past. They are notable without a doubt, as Kenji said above. Adyniz — Wanna talk? 08:21, 14 November 2012 (UTC)