Talk:Explorers
Proposing change from "admin" to "general"
I don't know if the term "admin" has been used in the English dub to refer to Amethio, Spinel, Coral, Sidian, or Chalce, but the official site (https://horizons.pokemon.com/en-us/) describe the latter four individually as "a general of the Explorers". Amethio is not referred to as a general, but it can be assumed he was one since he seemed to be on their level at the beginning of the series. Is this enough to change all instances of "admin" to "general"? Shinka (talk) 17:56, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- The pokemon.com site certainly seems to be using the term "general" with intention, so if we can't find any official use of the term "admin" referring to them in Pokémon Horizons: The Series, I'm personally in favor of the change.
- Interested to hear others' thoughts though before we implement the change.
- Similarly, for Amethio, Zirc, and Onia, it's interesting that Amethio is not given a title at all by the site, but the consensus seems to be he is an "admin" alongside the others. Not sure that has any deeper meaning though. Zirc and Onia are called "members" rather than "agents", with Hamber as a "senior member". So maybe another future talking point! Thespeon196 (talk) 18:18, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- I was watching the newest dub ep on the Pokemon Asia channel when I found this suggested short which reminded me of this conversation. Not sure if this promotional clip is good enough as a source, but it named Amethio as an Admin of the Explorers. Misaxx99 (talk) 07:45, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
- I'm of the opinion the website's usage of "general" takes precedence over the short in this case, unless, of course, the term "admin" is used in the series proper. This usage could still be mentioned in the page, similar to how Totem Pokémon deals with the terms "Totem-sized" and "Totem-like". Shinka (talk) 04:26, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
- I agree, I think a reference to the term 'general' on the Explorers page, with a reference link to the relevant pokemon.com page, wouldn't do any harm. It would be great to hear either one of the terms mentioned in the English dub of the mainline animated series itself, though, for true confirmation. To my knowledge this hasn't happened yet though. Thespeon196 (talk) 12:06, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
- Adding to the argument, the blurb for HZ086 refers to Coral, Sidian, Chalce, and Spinel as generals ("the four generals of the Explorers"), leaving Amethio out once again (though, at this point, he was basically kicked out). With the official website and the episode blurb using the term "generals" and only a promotional clip being found to use "admin" instead, I think it's safe to say it's the proper term in this case. Shinka (talk) 19:57, 1 May 2026 (UTC)
- https://x.com/anipoke_PR/status/2047622830880325904 Hikaru Wazana (talk) 20:05, 1 May 2026 (UTC)
- I understand that the term used on the post is the same used for the Team Rocket executives (and it was translated to "executive" as well), but in this case shouldn't a recurring term from sources in English be used? All in all, "admin" just seems to be less correct one, and it is the one used everywhere. Shinka (talk) 20:13, 1 May 2026 (UTC)
- https://x.com/anipoke_PR/status/2047622830880325904 Hikaru Wazana (talk) 20:05, 1 May 2026 (UTC)
- Adding to the argument, the blurb for HZ086 refers to Coral, Sidian, Chalce, and Spinel as generals ("the four generals of the Explorers"), leaving Amethio out once again (though, at this point, he was basically kicked out). With the official website and the episode blurb using the term "generals" and only a promotional clip being found to use "admin" instead, I think it's safe to say it's the proper term in this case. Shinka (talk) 19:57, 1 May 2026 (UTC)
- I agree, I think a reference to the term 'general' on the Explorers page, with a reference link to the relevant pokemon.com page, wouldn't do any harm. It would be great to hear either one of the terms mentioned in the English dub of the mainline animated series itself, though, for true confirmation. To my knowledge this hasn't happened yet though. Thespeon196 (talk) 12:06, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
- I'm of the opinion the website's usage of "general" takes precedence over the short in this case, unless, of course, the term "admin" is used in the series proper. This usage could still be mentioned in the page, similar to how Totem Pokémon deals with the terms "Totem-sized" and "Totem-like". Shinka (talk) 04:26, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
- I was watching the newest dub ep on the Pokemon Asia channel when I found this suggested short which reminded me of this conversation. Not sure if this promotional clip is good enough as a source, but it named Amethio as an Admin of the Explorers. Misaxx99 (talk) 07:45, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
Explorers members
Shouldn't the list with the Explorers members be more similar to each other? I mean that the "Current Explorers" list looks nothing like the "Original Explorers" list, i also think that style doesn't look very good in phones. Let me know your opinion on this as well. Trainersurrel0409 (talk) 19:23, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- I think both lists on this page should be changed to be like the list on the Rising Volt Tacklers page, which would mean adding a column for a short overview. → SuperPikaPool13 20:18, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- I'm against combining the two strands of Explorers into one section. Unlike the Rising Volt Tacklers, the Explorers that Lucius, Rystal and Gibeon were part of were a group of adventurers, while the current version is a villainous team. Two completely different views.
- I'm trying to find a way to present the teams' information (since the anime didn't give a decent frame of Indy and Rubella in the two episodes they appeared in). I wanted to use a model similar to the one used on the Naranja Academy character pages and other pages, as it is more standardized with some pages already made.--Hikaru Wazana (talk) 20:50, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- I agree, the modern and the original should stay apart, i also like the idea of adding a short overview about each member. I still really dislike how the "Modern member" list looks, way too different from the others. Trainersurrel0409 (talk) 21:54, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- I personally like this idea, gives more info about each members, but we shouldn't add too much. Trainersurrel0409 (talk) 01:30, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
I don't see why the "Debut" column is so important here. It lists when we first saw them sure, but I don't think that's important to know when looking at an overview table. A column with a short description of their role throughout the organization would be much more helpful. → SuperPikaPool13 20:32, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- I just kept the same information that was in the previous box. Since there is no clear image of all the characters, I think it's interesting to maintain consistency. This model that I worked with is the same one that was present in the staff of Naranja Academy and others. But I also thought that in this model, the debut information doesn't work well.
- All of these characters have their own page, I don't know how important it is to have a description of them in a table on the Explorers page. Essentially there is no single role on the team for each one like there is with the Rising Volt Tacklers.--Hikaru Wazana (talk) 13:18, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
Coral and Sidian post-HZ136
As per this tweet from the official anipoke_PR account, Coral and Sidian are also no longer with the Explorers. I wanted to call attention to it instead of making the edits myself in case there is something being mangled in translation that I am not able to see. --The Great Butler (talk) 05:00, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
Cervantis as the boss
Where did the information about Cervantis being welcomed back into the Explorers and taking the role of boss come from? As far as I'm aware, HZ136 only states that he came back as the director of Exceed, but never disclosed who is leading the Explorers now. Is there a tweet somewhere that confirms that like the generals' departure? JonGor13 (talk) 14:41, 28 May 2026 (UTC)