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:I do support this. I initially was the one who moved the page; it was then moved back to because it should be split instead, but it was never split or moved back, and now the fact that it was moved back, not split, AND prevented from being moved again means that the page title provides actual ''false information'' on the contents of the article, which are ''not'' only about Legendary Pokémon, but the separate group Mythical Pokémon. False information was kind of what I was trying to avoid by changing the article in the first place... I remain neutral on whether it should be split or moved, but I do still think that something has to be done (and I really don't think it makes sense for it to be moved back to ''something incorrect'' simply because another course of action ''that isn't even being taken'' '''would''' be superior...). [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 23:30, 31 December 2014 (UTC) | :I do support this. I initially was the one who moved the page; it was then moved back to because it should be split instead, but it was never split or moved back, and now the fact that it was moved back, not split, AND prevented from being moved again means that the page title provides actual ''false information'' on the contents of the article, which are ''not'' only about Legendary Pokémon, but the separate group Mythical Pokémon. False information was kind of what I was trying to avoid by changing the article in the first place... I remain neutral on whether it should be split or moved, but I do still think that something has to be done (and I really don't think it makes sense for it to be moved back to ''something incorrect'' simply because another course of action ''that isn't even being taken'' '''would''' be superior...). [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 23:30, 31 December 2014 (UTC) | ||
::I '''strongly oppose''' a split. The ORAS website has a page about Mythical Pokémon in its Legendary Pokémon section, so it's officially considered a subcategory, not its own category. This means that all Mythical Pokémon are Legendary as well. It's like how a square is a rectangle. [[User:Pikachu Bros.|Pikachu Bros.]] ([[User talk:Pikachu Bros.|talk]]) 00:30, 14 January 2015 (UTC) | ::I '''strongly oppose''' a split. The ORAS website has a page about Mythical Pokémon in its Legendary Pokémon section, so it's officially considered a subcategory, not its own category. This means that all Mythical Pokémon are Legendary as well. It's like how a square is a rectangle. [[User:Pikachu Bros.|Pikachu Bros.]] ([[User talk:Pikachu Bros.|talk]]) 00:30, 14 January 2015 (UTC) | ||
:::That's a categorization issue rather than saying that Mythical Pokémon are Legendary Pokémon (prose should be given precedence over sitemaps). We already have evidence that demonstrates they are separate categories. Most notably, [http://www.pokemonrubysapphire.com/en-us/pokemon/legendary-pokemon/more-legendary-pokemon-appearing-in-mirage-spots this page] makes it clear that Mythical Pokémon are not Legendary Pokémon with the statement "''With Pokémon X, Pokémon Y, Pokémon Omega Ruby, and Pokémon Alpha Sapphire, every Legendary Pokémon discovered to date can be obtained!''" Additionally, [https://www.nintendo.co.za/Games/Nintendo-3DS/Super-Pokemon-Rumble-274930.html there] [http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/more-online-competitions-are-on-the-way/ are] [http://www.pokemonconquest.com/en-au/outline/densetsu official] [http://www.pokemonrumble.com/RumbleU/en_AU/game/game_05.html sources] that specify "Legendary and Mythical Pokémon", meaning that Mythical Pokémon are not Legendary Pokémon. | |||
:::While this is a discussion about the English term, in Japanese material the term 「伝説・幻のポケモン」 ''Legendary • Mythical Pokémon'' is quite common. Additionally, on the [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/oras/pokemon/ ORAS Pokémon page], despite there being a "Legendary Pokémon" category, the Mythical Pokémon Deoxys is categorized under 「その他」 ''other''. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 02:35, 14 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Mythical and Legendary classification with sources == | == Mythical and Legendary classification with sources == | ||
