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== Edit summaries/Sawyer ==
The reason why the trivia keeps getting added has been explained in the edit history of four separate pages now (JN108, Trip, JN115, and JN118).
Alain is considered Ash's ''primary'' XY rival, not Sawyer (while I admit that Sawyer is not that far behind, Alain has clearly gotten more focus overall, especially with the Mega Evolution Specials and his full-fledged return in Journeys). If you disagree with this, please use the talk page. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 23:50, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
Hi [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]],
I didn't go back to see why the edits have been reverted so that's my bad.
I still very much disagree that Alain is the "primary" rival - I view Alain and Sawyer's rivalry with Ash to be equivalent. Alain's role in the Mega Evolution Specials are irrelevant to me in this context because those have nothing to do directly with the rivalry with Ash. Same with the PWC - they didn't even get to fight.
Sawyer and Alain both had a roughly-equal number of battles of notable importance, and had solid interactions with Ash outside of that (Sawyer more so than Alain TBH), and both had big focus full-battles vs Ash in the Kalos League. One could argue that the Team Flare part in the Flare Arc could push that over, but I would disagree since that lasted like 10 minutes of them being on opposite sides.
Those are my thoughts - IMO this is the only season that could even have this be contentious (every other season really only having 1 extremely-clear major rival or no major rivals) so I get the debate. --[[User:Doofinc|Doofinc]] ([[User talk:Doofinc|talk]]) 00:48, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

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Edit summaries/Sawyer

The reason why the trivia keeps getting added has been explained in the edit history of four separate pages now (JN108, Trip, JN115, and JN118).

Alain is considered Ash's primary XY rival, not Sawyer (while I admit that Sawyer is not that far behind, Alain has clearly gotten more focus overall, especially with the Mega Evolution Specials and his full-fledged return in Journeys). If you disagree with this, please use the talk page. PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 23:50, 24 July 2022 (UTC)


Hi PokemonMasterJamal3,

I didn't go back to see why the edits have been reverted so that's my bad.

I still very much disagree that Alain is the "primary" rival - I view Alain and Sawyer's rivalry with Ash to be equivalent. Alain's role in the Mega Evolution Specials are irrelevant to me in this context because those have nothing to do directly with the rivalry with Ash. Same with the PWC - they didn't even get to fight.

Sawyer and Alain both had a roughly-equal number of battles of notable importance, and had solid interactions with Ash outside of that (Sawyer more so than Alain TBH), and both had big focus full-battles vs Ash in the Kalos League. One could argue that the Team Flare part in the Flare Arc could push that over, but I would disagree since that lasted like 10 minutes of them being on opposite sides.

Those are my thoughts - IMO this is the only season that could even have this be contentious (every other season really only having 1 extremely-clear major rival or no major rivals) so I get the debate. --Doofinc (talk) 00:48, 29 July 2022 (UTC)