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:I would think so. Generation IV added newly-created Abilities to old Pokemon, but as far as I know, it didn't add any old Abilities to old Pokemon. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:26, 16 September 2013 (UTC) | :I would think so. Generation IV added newly-created Abilities to old Pokemon, but as far as I know, it didn't add any old Abilities to old Pokemon. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:26, 16 September 2013 (UTC) | ||
::Ah, alright. Thanks, most of the Ekans I seen in FireRed have Intimidate most of the time. [[User:Poke'fan07|Poke'fan07]] ([[User talk:Poke'fan07|talk]]) 21:10, 16 September 2013 (UTC) | ::Ah, alright. Thanks, most of the Ekans I seen in FireRed have Intimidate most of the time. [[User:Poke'fan07|Poke'fan07]] ([[User talk:Poke'fan07|talk]]) 21:10, 16 September 2013 (UTC) | ||
== Probability == | |||
The probability was recently changed due to the [https://github.com/pret/pokeemerald/blob/4418189d4cf94bd5f837611da2dcb6147709d653/src/battle_util.c#L1958 Emerald disassembly], but [https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/past-gen-rng-research.61090/page-31#post-3699635 Gen 5 datamining] determined it to be 30%. So the exact probability appears to have changed between generations. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 10:50, 10 May 2019 (UTC) | |||
:I somewhat regret I did that particular edit. First of all, those 30-ish percentages are a nightmare. Anyway, when trying to judge how credible 30% was for later generations (read: at all), I found [[Special:Diff/24736|the original edit]], as well as mostly reliable [https://web.archive.org/web/20171228041228/http://upcarchive.playker.info/0/upokecenter/content/pokemon-black-version-and-pokemon-white-version-abilities.html UPC] and [https://github.com/Zarel/Pokemon-Showdown/blob/master/data/abilities.js#L2938 Showdown] pointing towards this being a guess that was some percent off. My judgment was to neglect the [[:ja:Special:Diff/380856|only indication of a change]] that I could find, resulting in doing the edit; an edit that fixes an error, is sourced rather than unsourced, and quite likely did no harm. (I didn't edit Poison Point, Static, Flame Body, and Cute Charm, even though I know they're wrong at least for Generation III, because I don't have all that for those.) And so there's that edit I believe I shouldn't have done, but shouldn't undo either. | |||
:My guess is that it's quite likely there was a change before Generation IV, and that it's the only change that has happened. But bottom line is, I just don't know, anything could have happened, even multiple changes. I'm not even 100% sure it really is 30% in Gen V (99.9%, yes, but it's just pseudocode after all, there ''may'' potentially be a typo or even a mistake). [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 22:05, 10 May 2019 (UTC) | |||
Latest revision as of 22:05, 10 May 2019
number of pokémon
the ability page says 12, this page only has 11 listed, I have no idea what the last one is, someone else please add it. Zurqoxn 09:14, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
I've fixed it, Burmy was missing. I find it somewhat disturbing that this was never corrected for such a long time.
Can Ekans have Shed Skin in Generation 3?
Can Ekans have Shed Skin in Generation 3 or is that only in Generation 4 and onwards? Poke'fan07 (talk) 19:05, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
- I would think so. Generation IV added newly-created Abilities to old Pokemon, but as far as I know, it didn't add any old Abilities to old Pokemon. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 19:26, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
- Ah, alright. Thanks, most of the Ekans I seen in FireRed have Intimidate most of the time. Poke'fan07 (talk) 21:10, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
Probability
The probability was recently changed due to the Emerald disassembly, but Gen 5 datamining determined it to be 30%. So the exact probability appears to have changed between generations. --SnorlaxMonster 10:50, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
- I somewhat regret I did that particular edit. First of all, those 30-ish percentages are a nightmare. Anyway, when trying to judge how credible 30% was for later generations (read: at all), I found the original edit, as well as mostly reliable UPC and Showdown pointing towards this being a guess that was some percent off. My judgment was to neglect the only indication of a change that I could find, resulting in doing the edit; an edit that fixes an error, is sourced rather than unsourced, and quite likely did no harm. (I didn't edit Poison Point, Static, Flame Body, and Cute Charm, even though I know they're wrong at least for Generation III, because I don't have all that for those.) And so there's that edit I believe I shouldn't have done, but shouldn't undo either.
- My guess is that it's quite likely there was a change before Generation IV, and that it's the only change that has happened. But bottom line is, I just don't know, anything could have happened, even multiple changes. I'm not even 100% sure it really is 30% in Gen V (99.9%, yes, but it's just pseudocode after all, there may potentially be a typo or even a mistake). Nescientist (talk) 22:05, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
