Talk:List of sync pairs

3 attacks

Since now sync pairs with 3 attacks are a thing, shouldn't someone edit the template to allow it to have 3 types of attacks?--Zarxiel94 (talk) 08:59, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Bumping this, Leon only has 2 types displayed right now, whoever has the ability to edit the template should do so. Meanscreen (talk) 06:15, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Giovanni (Main Universe)?

Since we consider Giovanni from FRLG as possible, I think we also should consider e.g. Hoenn leaders from RSE also possible, because they are from another universe too Asmod96 (talk) 19:41, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

main universe Giovanni appeared in Masters media, for this is considered. RSE Gym Leaders don't--Zarxiel94 (talk) 22:22, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Interlude 7

Since Lear, Rachel, and Sawyer are playable in Interlude 7, shouldn't they be a part of the list of sync pairs?--ConNix 18:15, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

You can't properly use them... is just for that fight, is like Parker. If we add them we should add Parker too. Another opton is to add them but seprate from the others since the others are actually usable anywhere--Zarxiel94 (talk) 18:27, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Evolved or not?

Should we use the icon of the evolved form or of their pre-evolved form? I'm absolutly convinced the evolved is the better option. Is far more important gamewise, and is the form where they take their actual sync move and moves, after all, the pre-evolved form is something that stay for so little that is barely important, since you can get so easly evolutionary items now, and people can still see the pre-evolved form from the name. Like for exemple Dusclops -> Dusknoir.
So... yhea, I don't see actual reason to give more importance to a temorary form instead of the definitive one.--Zarxiel94 (talk) 12:33, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Actually, thinked just now... the evolved form icon is more usefull even because if one day we will get a Pokémon with split evolution and different form, the previous form will not show what he will became. Yhea we can still just write the form name, but I don't think will be efficient like show the image of it. Let's make an exemple. If Paolo will be avaible with Rockruff that evolve into Lycanrock Dusk Form, we will just show Rockruff image, and Rockruff can evolve in any of the 3 forms. But if we show Dusk Lycanroc, then there is no confusion, because Dusk Lycanroc just have Rockruff as pre-evo. I mean, exist branched evos, but not branched pre-evo. If you know the final evo, you know even the pre-evo without need of read, but if you just know the pre-evo, you can not know the evo without reading. So, showing the final evo will:

• Show the form more relevant gamewise
• Show the definitive form instead of a temporary one that players will just evolved a bit after obtained it
• Will be more efficient in the case we will get Pokémon that have branched evolutions (like the exemple of Paolo), and the image will be more of impact since just seeing the image you will already know what you will get without read anything, making it more efficient

So yhea... there is no true reason to leave the pre-evo image, if someone don't know if a Pokémon heva a pre-evo and take Dusclops for exemple, just the fact that here is showed Dusknoir will tell him Dusclops can evolve in a more direct and fast way, resulting so a lot more efficient. --Zarxiel94 (talk) 12:46, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

While I'm not strongly inclined as to which image we show, ideally the pre-evo image is the best one to show. Firstly, the list should show how the sync pairs are obtained (i.e. with their base form), and this corresponds with how they are presented in the Dex and Sync Pair Scout. Additionally, players may choose not to evolve their Pokémon, and thus showing the evolved form will not reflect what everyone will have. Also, how easy it is evolve them, and how relevant they are to gameplay (strength etc.) are not parameters we should be taking into account here. Even if Paulo were to be obtained as a sync pair with Rockruff, I don't think it'll be confusing to the reader as to which form it evolves into (plus this is only a hypothetical scenario regardless). Wowy_(talk) 10:20, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Not completly, let's take Selene for exemple. Her gimmick is all around Spirit Shackle, a move that she gain only with Decidueye, now in the last in-game guides, the sync pairs are refered with the evolved POkémon instead with the base one. For exemple, the suggested team for the Ground team is Rosa & Serperior instead of Snivy.--Zarxiel94 (talk) 16:35, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Anabel, Looker and Hala

They are confirmed in the sound files of the game:

https://github.com/gamepress/jsons/blob/master/pm/20180830/FieldTalkVoice.json

they are: 161-Hara (Hala), 178-Lira (Anabel) and 217-Handsome (Looker) --Zarxiel94 (talk) 18:00, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Uhh, even it's confirmed in the sound files? they're not officially confirmed.

--Taufiq (talk) 17:48, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

We never had problem to show things confirmed in the datafiles, so, make no sense have problems to add them after nearly 2 years we put datamine stuff before any official confirmation--Zarxiel94 (talk) 09:21, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

The fact that soundfiles exist means that they were at least planned to be put in the game at some point. This makes them valid to be added in that table, in my opinion. After all, we even list characters that got featured in that old animated trailer from 2019, despite the fact that there's absolutely no guarantee that they will ever be added to the game. All these months have shown us that DeNA probably doesn't even care about that old trailer at this point, yet we still list those characters. --Maxim (talk) 09:47, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Drasna

For who is wondering. She is confirmed by sound files. Some her sound files was added in the latest version of the game apparently: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/gamepress/jsons/master/pm/FieldTalkVoice.json

her ID is 155 for who want to check.--Zarxiel94 (talk) 09:50, 14 June 2021 (UTC)--Zarxiel94 (talk) 09:50, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Meowth playble?

Well... seems people find out there is some data about Meowth as sync pair, since was found an ID for him (258) and a quote about him being get as sync pair.

I have NO IDEA on how consider that... if he should be placed with the "upcoming" sync pairs or not... so... for now I will not doing nothing, but... is weird...--Zarxiel94 (talk) 20:42, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, better not putting anything for now. My guess is that either he’ll have the Shiny Celebi as partner or they’ll use the same system used for wild Pokémon like in the Solgaleo battles to have him playable as both “pair” and Pokémon, but we’ll see - if he ever becomes playable as he seems to be tied with the promotion of Secrets of the Jungle, that for now is on hold.—Mister Wu (talk) 00:02, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Sidney confirmed

To remove any doubt. Sidney is indeed confirmed, since a guy was registred as Sidney voice actor for Masters. So is legit.

[1]

--Zarxiel94 (talk) 08:18, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Main character position

Since the OC are listed in the bottom, wouldn't make more sense add the main character there too? Since he technically belong to the category of "OC"?--Zarxiel94 (talk) 11:24, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Grimsley (Alola)

So... why we can't add Bisharp for him, but for Ryuki and Paulo add Tortunator and Rockruff is fine? What is the difference? All three aren't used by any sync pair. So... why Paulo and Ryuki yes, but Grimsley no? Make no sense. Or everybody or nobody. The excuse of "but we don't know if he will have that Pokémon as playble sync pair" by this logic, neither Paulo and Ryuki. So...--Zarxiel94 (talk) 20:27, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Unless I am missing some information from datamines, Grimsley (Alola) does not have known partner now, at all. Paulo and Ryuki are different in a way - their NPC versions appeared in cutscenes before, with Rockruff and Turtonator as their partners. You can't just put some guess in - you have no evidence to base it on. Itan (talk) 21:18, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Is not a guess, is from the datamine. Grimsley (Alola) from the information I founded is a boss, he have a landscape () and he use Bisharp (https://pm-random.github.io/characters). So, I was putting Bisharp not for a guess, but because dataminers founded Grimsley (Alola) as a boss with Bisharp--Zarxiel94 (talk) 22:14, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

May not mean anything. Plus, Bryony is more likely to get Bisharp. Chomper4 (talk) 22:18, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

I thought that too, and I thinked Grimsley (Alola) would get Krookodile, but then I founded he actually have Bisharp... and others TF admins already run out of Pokémon. I think DeNa will just give to them things they never had (after all, they gave Pheromosa to Lusamine and Pinsir to Noland, while TA already run out of Pokémon, while TM have only Camerupt left, so since they are confirmed, this mean at least 3 of them will get Pokémon never used in maingames). Btw, how you can see, nothing of what I wrote before was a guess.--Zarxiel94 (talk) 22:29, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Team Magma also has access to Claydol and Team Aqua actually has access to Muk and Wailord. Chomper4 (talk) 22:35, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Buck will likely get Claydol, Muk probably to Ariana, since is the only option left. Wailord is possible.--Zarxiel94 (talk) 23:22, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Can we leave the section for his Pokémon empty for now? Chomper4 (talk) 23:50, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Why? With the datamine we already know who will be the Pokémon.--Zarxiel94 (talk) 06:58, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

It might not always be the case. Chomper4 (talk) 09:11, 28 October 2021 (UTC)