Talk:Castform (Pokémon)

Marking Solarbeam as a STAB move

In most pages, Solarbeam isn't marked as a STAB move for Fire pokémon, since it usually isn't Fire type. However, in the case of Castform, any time that Castform is Fire, so is Solarbeam. Because of this, I marked Solarbeam as a STAB move for Castform's Fire type form. User142 (Talk) 10:11, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Your logic is flawed for two reasons: one is quite simply that Solarboam is not powered up during strong sunlight (but rather becomes a one-turn move), the other is that whatever the case, STAB refers only to boosts due to type. This means that even if you were correct about Solarbeam's boost, it would still not be called STAB. If to elaborate, during strong sunlight or rain, not only does Castform type change (hence STAB), but Fire or Water-type moves receive an equivalent boost to that of STAB. It is necessary to distinguish between the two effects, if only for the fact that they can be combined into a 2.25 boost when a Fire or Water-type Pokémon (or Castform) is involved. Treating them as one effectively disregards that advantage - a vital one in Castform's case.

As a rule, the different terminology are best left separate. This also applies to base stats and type effectiveness - factoring Defense and Special Defense into the latter results in meaningless statistics. Simply put, the damage formula is not in direct proportion to the defense stat, unlike your assumption in computing the numbers. I will be glad to explain the formula at length if you are not convinced, as I hope to recruit you to revert your many edits pertaining to type effectiveness. --Unown Lord

Reading your sentence again, it seems that I was confused as to the source of your misconception. I imagined you had thought Solarbeam was powered up under strong sunlight in addition to Fire-type moves, which I could understand, but you actually seem to have thought its type changed. Either way, it is a mistake.

I will say that in Castform's case, weather effects deserve to be taken into account when computing type effectiveness in the same way Ninetales' Flash Fire ability is factorized. However, you considered weather effects as doubling or halving, when it is, in fact, a 1.5 or 0.66 multiplier. --Unown Lord

Sand Form

Castform has a sand form, correct? If so, some should get a pic up.

No it doesn't. --Shiny Noctowl 12:15, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Custom Forms

Can somoene like, make their own custom sandform sprites: I want to see what people think sandstorm castform, night time castform, fog castform, the magical glitter thing that happens in snowpoint and their shiny sprites would look like!!!!!!!--1i2h3c4c5e6 05:09, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Uh, no, this isn't a fake sprite request page. Also, the Castform forms don't have different shiny sprites, just the normal form does. TTEchidnaFire echy 05:55, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Yea, we're an informitive wiki, not a fan site. --Theryguy512 13:39, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Castform being a non-artificial pokemon

I don't think Castform should be marked as an artificial pokémon because a) it cn be found in the wild b) you can breed it and c) Mewtwo is a one-off genetically mutated pokémon therefore it is an artificial pokemo because there is only one of it and it was manmade. Also all porygon are manmade and cannot breed and therefore the species should be marked as an artificial pokemon. Finally as an ending note Castform are said to prefer grass lands in the wild which goes to support point A showng it not to be an artificial pokémon. Hence I would like to change the information about Castform being an artficial pokemon

Porygon can be found in the wild, too. Same place as Castform, in fact! And let's not forget, Porygon can breed. Get a Ditto, put it in the daycare with Porygon or any of its evolutions. Pow. Egg.

Anyway, I honestly don't know who marked Castform as artificial, though I initially thought it may have been created due to its home of the Weather Institute. Who freaking knows, anyway. TTEchidna 01:10, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Well yeah but almost anything can breed with ditto and besides castform can actually have genders and breed with other pokemon besies ditto. Also, who's t say that those porygon aren't imported to the trophy garden (the only actual place to find "wild" porygon)?

Also porygon is JUST programming, nothing else and Mewtwo is basically just a pimped up version of Mew. Castform isn't from any template like programming or another pokemon, its a pokeon in its own right, therefore it should be marked as one and not artificial.