Talk:Braviary (Pokémon)

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Legit Name

Serebii.net confirms the pokemons name to be "Wooguru" not "Wargle" Monochras 15:10, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Serebii.net isn't official. It's different romanizations. Also, it's Pokémon, not pokemon. Turtwig's A-B-Cs (talk | contribs) 15:15, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Name Origin

Fun factoid: students, alumni, and fans of Auburn University in Auburn, Alabama use the phrase "War Eagle" extensively, as a greeting and as a battle cry at sporting events. Seems to fit this Pokémon's name very well. xD--Phantomjunkie 07:02, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

There was an actual Native American Chief who was named War Eagle. Also, the name of the headdress Wargle's crest is based off of is the War Bonnet (which ironically, the best war bonnets are made of Eagle feathers) I believe this is a much better guess at the Origin of Wargle's name than the rather tenuous origin listed. Trainer-c 09:27, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Psh, tenuous. This is Japan we're talking about. The country we forced into having essentially a baby military while we set up shop there after WWII with the excuse of preventing them from starting wars, and then proceeded ourselves to start wars literally everywhere else. Not to get political or anything, but LOOK AT IT. It's Stephen Colbert personified! TTEchidna 02:50, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Physiology

Should I make a Physiology paragraph for it, or should we wait until its hind body can be clearly discerned? Steph 00:25, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

(I was a little impatient--the picture of the body is up now. Before anyone else procures a paragraph...)

Wargle is an eagle-like Pokemon, sporting red, navy, yellow and blue coloration. Wargle's face is blue, its beak yellow, the cere above it is blue. There is a dark red, three-pointed crest above the cere, from which extend three feather plumes; additionally, there are other, similar plumes present on the sides of Wargle's face. Along with the feathery "mane" on the back of its head and neck, all these features have been described to give the impression of a feathered headdress. Wargle's back and the upper sides of its wings are dark red, the undersides of both being navy-colored. There are spiky feathers on the upper portions of Wargle's large yellow talons, with the talons possessing black nails and an arrangement of three in front and one in back. Wargle's tail feathers are mainly red, with a yellow stripe and blue tipping.

(If it feels a little rushed, then it is because I did not want my competition "nipping at my heels".) Steph 02:57, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Ability

Aren't we using "Invigorate"? At least that's what Hihidaruma's article says... - Taylor 02:49, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Same ability? TTEchidna 02:51, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Yep. Both listed in Japanese as 「ちからづく」. - Taylor 02:53, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Fixed, then. TTEchidna 02:57, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Name

Is this pokemon's name Wargle or Wooguru? I just wanted to know since their is this article and an unwritten one called Wooguru. --Crimsonnavy 03:27, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

It's the same thing. But Wargle is actually more correct, it reflects the meaning and has big chance to be the Trademarked Romaji. --Maxim 08:24, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

War thing

"Wargle is derived from war, possibly in reference to the many wars the US has involved itself in" - this doesn't really make much sence to me. It just refers to the word "war", probably reflecting this bird's bellicose personality. Searching for a hidden reference to America is very farfetched here. Also, many countries have an eagle as national bird (Poland, Russia, Germany, Austria etc.) --Maxim 08:24, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

I have to say that currently it seems kinda dumb to be claiming that this pokemon is "so American." If anything I'd say it's much more an homage to Native Americans than the United States. The headdress especially. Native Americans used bright colors. There's yellow on this thing, which there isn't on the US flag. Can we consider removing the parallels to the US in the article at least for the time being? GreatLiver 14:00, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

I second that decision, at least for now, and when we can tell what the yellow means. Pokemonemerfan1954 14:12, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

I agree with GreatLiver. While I did not notice the similarities to the American flag (which I think do exist), I do agree that it has far more to do with Native American culture than contemporary American culture (who's flag colors are actually based on those of the French Revolution, and not their Native neighbors). Also consider that during the time of western expansion, many Native American tribes considered war to be a major part of their culture, and would probably wear such headdresses as Wargle bears during raids, combats, and rituals preparing for them. (Ryuken13 15:10, 14 July 2010 (UTC))

Resistance

Isn't Wargle supposed to be resistant to Grass-type?--Kusnir 18:53, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Origin

I think it should be pointed out that its crest resembles a Native American headdress. --Goldenpelt 02:40, 15 July 2010 (UTC)