Talk:Shellder (Pokémon)

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|heartgolddex=It swims facing backward by opening and closing its two-piece shell. It is surprisingly fast.

♥ 梅子^❀_✿ 02:44, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Okay

It has to be said by someone, because nobody seems to be discussing this and it's not mentioned in the Slowbro, Slowking, Slowpoke or Shellder articles. But it's got to come out: The thing that bites Slowbro and Slowking in no way resembles a Shellder. We've got to mention that somewhere, because it confuses the readers to death- they read about Slowbro, and they follow the link to Shellder, and they look back and forth at the two images and it doesn't make any sense! Is there a reason why nobody has written this anywhere?! Shady got 10,000 for winning 23:42, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Feel free to put it in somewhere if you think anything's missing. That is the nature of a wiki :)

I also suggest you remove the from your signature. It's not doing anything and will never do anything. —darklordtrom 10:57, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, it's not showing up. Do you mean ? Shady got 10,000 for winning 22:33, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

The anime explained it that the Shellder mutates/changes in order to live on the tail or head of it's Slowpoke host in a way that benefits them both. The Shellder gives balance to Slowbro, and I forget what it gives to Slowking. R.A. Hunter Blade 22:53, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

By biting Slowking's head, it injects toxins that make it smarter. THat's what it does for it. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 02:06, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

It apparently does the same with Slowbro; that's why Slowbro also walks on two legs. But it seems to work better with the toxins going directly to the brain rather than working their way up the spine and such. --AndyPKMN 14:24, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Body Slam

Shellder can't learn Body Slam by TM in Yellow, and neither can Cloyster. Can someone confirm this for Red and Blue, so it can be corrected on this page? - unsigned comment from Thomasdenhaan (talk • contribs)

Shell

Shellder can learn every move with shell in its name? Meearaimeng 12:10, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Because there is only two, it's not notable.----無限の知性 ◎ ＤＥＮＮＯＵ◆ＺＥＮＳＨＩ 14:48, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Also, neither has an English name yet either. --SnorlaxMonster 14:53, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

But what about if we count its move effect like clamp and withdraw there also show shell effect which shellder can use all of itMeearaimeng 03:04, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

No, because there are other water type Pokemon than just Shellder capable of learning it. It's not really a signature move of it either. Frozen Fennec 03:16, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Leech like properties.

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Its parasitic relationship to Slowpoke may be inspired by leeches. Interesting enough, Slowbro is known as the Hermit Crab Pokémon and many real-world parasites, including leeches, often target crabs. Also despite many common misconceptions, most leeches are not just parasites but also predators. Leech(es should stay leeches sorry) often hunt small invertebrates, which they then devour whole. This can explain why instead of merely attaching itself to Slowpoke's flesh, they instead attempt to bite onto and even consume the head or tail of the host Slowpoke.

Ok, I can cite right now that the Eelektrik articles lists the leech a possibility with no more "evidence" then shellder. Pokémon are not cut and dry, and unless we interrogate the Game Freak staff, we likely won't know for sure which Pokémon are based on what, if any plant or animal. We had this same problem on the Chestnaught article with people saying it can't be based off any animals other than hedgehogs just because that is what Chestpin is based on. Yamitora1 (talk) 10:22, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Where is the evidence that Shellder is attempting to consume Slowpoke instead of merely latching on, though? I'm sorry, but to me merely latching on to something and not letting go does not describe leech-like properties. Leeches are worm-like creatures that suck blood, while Shellder is clam-like and has been stated to each scraps of Slowbro's meals. Shellder has a symbiotic relationship with its host, while most leeches certainly do not. Eelektrik,on the other hand, has the serpentine leech shape, jaw shape, and behavior to an extent. I'm not going to sit here and say that Shellder cannot possibly be based on a leech, but that the evidence is really weak and hazy, and therefore very unlikely. Not everything that latches onto something else is a leech, there are many other kinds of parasites - including a clam with a parasitic lifestage. The wording of this is also somewhat poor. "Interestingly" is an opinion, and really shouldn't be here. And most of the evidence after that is very circumstantial and a little speculative, since as I said there's no evidence that Shellder is trying to consume Slowpoke. If we want to include leeches, it should be based on what evidence we do have. Which would just be the parasitic relationship, or "Its parasitic relationship to Slowpoke may be inspired by leeches" and possibly "This is also supported by its beneficial toxins". Since some leeches do produce a toxin in their saliva that is useful to the host. Crystal Talian 19:13, 19 January 2014 (UTC)