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:::Dragon Ball Z is perhaps the best way to compare Hadou/Aura (波導) and Ki (気, which in Chinese is pronounced qi and in Japan as ki). If you look at DBZ, most attacks in the series use Ki, a person's fighting spirit/inner strength, whereas certain special attacks use something different, such as the Spirit Bomb which uses spirit/life energy, and seems to be analogous to the use of Hadou/Aura which appears to be how the Pokémon World refers to life energy (you could say that Goku's Spirit Bomb is pretty much a super huge Aura Sphere). But, if you use up your fighting spirit, you become exhausted, but use up all of your life energy, and you're dead, such was the case with Sir Aaron and later his Lucario. So attacks such as Focus Blast (Kiai dame, most likely meaning inner-strength reservoir) and Focus Punch (Kiai Punch, inner-strength punch) use ki, whereas Aura Sphere (hadou dan, wave-guiding mass) uses hadou/aura, life energy. Though the use of Aura sphere seems to use the aura gathered from around the user (hence being referred to wave-''guiding''), which explains why continual use doesn't kill the user. Perhaps even the whole system of PP is based on ki, the fighting energy, which would explain why Focus Blast which uses one's own ki directly outside the body is so powerful but only has a base of 5 PP, but Focus Punch, which keeps the energy in the body (one's fist) has so much more. That both Focus attacks use Ki directly and that they are fighting-type moves gives credence that they are based on the Martial Art's use of kiai and explains their Japanese names. The fact is: Hadou/Aura is not the same as Ki/Qi, but it's not unrelated either. --[[User:Wikifixer|Wikifixer]] 21:02, 2 September 2008 (UTC) | :::Dragon Ball Z is perhaps the best way to compare Hadou/Aura (波導) and Ki (気, which in Chinese is pronounced qi and in Japan as ki). If you look at DBZ, most attacks in the series use Ki, a person's fighting spirit/inner strength, whereas certain special attacks use something different, such as the Spirit Bomb which uses spirit/life energy, and seems to be analogous to the use of Hadou/Aura which appears to be how the Pokémon World refers to life energy (you could say that Goku's Spirit Bomb is pretty much a super huge Aura Sphere). But, if you use up your fighting spirit, you become exhausted, but use up all of your life energy, and you're dead, such was the case with Sir Aaron and later his Lucario. So attacks such as Focus Blast (Kiai dame, most likely meaning inner-strength reservoir) and Focus Punch (Kiai Punch, inner-strength punch) use ki, whereas Aura Sphere (hadou dan, wave-guiding mass) uses hadou/aura, life energy. Though the use of Aura sphere seems to use the aura gathered from around the user (hence being referred to wave-''guiding''), which explains why continual use doesn't kill the user. Perhaps even the whole system of PP is based on ki, the fighting energy, which would explain why Focus Blast which uses one's own ki directly outside the body is so powerful but only has a base of 5 PP, but Focus Punch, which keeps the energy in the body (one's fist) has so much more. That both Focus attacks use Ki directly and that they are fighting-type moves gives credence that they are based on the Martial Art's use of kiai and explains their Japanese names. The fact is: Hadou/Aura is not the same as Ki/Qi, but it's not unrelated either. --[[User:Wikifixer|Wikifixer]] 21:02, 2 September 2008 (UTC) | ||
::::It probably is based on energy sources such as Qi and Chakra but the Star Wars influence is clear from the repeated use of "The Aura is with me". I don't think Ash being the last one is pushing it either - the whole premise of the Aura Guardians is basically a fantasy version of the Jedi. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 00:22, 4 September 2008 (UTC) | ::::It probably is based on energy sources such as Qi and Chakra but the Star Wars influence is clear from the repeated use of "The Aura is with me". I don't think Ash being the last one is pushing it either - the whole premise of the Aura Guardians is basically a fantasy version of the Jedi. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 00:22, 4 September 2008 (UTC) | ||
==Water Pulse== | |||
Water Pulse doesn't use Aura.[[User:Shadow1337|Shadow1337]] 13:46, 13 October 2008 (UTC) | |||
Revision as of 13:46, 13 October 2008
Okay... so, someone who's read Special, is Yellow's ability Aura-like? And if so, should she, Rui, Ash, and any others with the aura ability be plopped into one category? TTEchidna 17:15, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Yellow's powers could just as easily be Psychic abilities. Considering that when it was written, that was the only special powers humans could have in Pokemon, that's probably what they were intended to be viewed as. --Zeta 18:11, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
- Hmm... Well, what of Rui in Colosseum? Aura may not have officially debuted until late Gen III, but ehh... And wasn't Yellow in the FRLG arc of Special, too? TTEchidna 18:26, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
- I say we just handle it the way Bulbapedia handles everything: Don't add it unless we know - Cassius335 19:11, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
- Well, we do know, since in Colo/XD they're all like "I CAN SEE ITS AURA" and "AURA READER" and stuff, plus, Colo/XD's Shadow Pokémon are mentioned here. TTEchidna 18:46, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
- That's fair enough for Rui. Was Yellow's ability ever reffered to as Aura, though? - Cassius335 11:22, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
- Didn't Sabrina imply that Aura and Psychic abilities are the same thing, though? I mean, she did mention something along the lines of Psychic powers making up all forms of life, and yet only a select few lifeforms are aware that they have it in the first gen and definitely their remakes (which was what Aura was described as in a nutshell.) Weedle Mchairybug 13:40, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
- Maybe. You can be telekenetic without looking like a refugee from Dragonball, though. - Cassius335 10:24, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- Ok, I added in the Sabrina reference to the article if that's ok. I also wanted to ask something. Cassius, exactly what did you mean by "You can be a telekinetic without looking like a refugee from dragonball"? I mean, I know the Dragonball. It just didn't make any sense as to what you said, that's all. Weedle Mchairybug 13:03, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
- Maybe. You can be telekenetic without looking like a refugee from Dragonball, though. - Cassius335 10:24, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- Didn't Sabrina imply that Aura and Psychic abilities are the same thing, though? I mean, she did mention something along the lines of Psychic powers making up all forms of life, and yet only a select few lifeforms are aware that they have it in the first gen and definitely their remakes (which was what Aura was described as in a nutshell.) Weedle Mchairybug 13:40, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
- That's fair enough for Rui. Was Yellow's ability ever reffered to as Aura, though? - Cassius335 11:22, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
- Well, we do know, since in Colo/XD they're all like "I CAN SEE ITS AURA" and "AURA READER" and stuff, plus, Colo/XD's Shadow Pokémon are mentioned here. TTEchidna 18:46, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
- I say we just handle it the way Bulbapedia handles everything: Don't add it unless we know - Cassius335 19:11, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Qi
More likely a reference to Chi than Star Wars. Someone shift the emphasis, please. --Raijinili 03:47, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
- If you come up with a good enough case for qi, I'll put it on the page.Otherwise, the star wars is rightDCM
- Considering the way Dragon Ball Z represented qi (or ki as it's called there) and how it can be used as a visible projectile and literally makes characters glow with an aura, I would say that my case is made. Also, the "aura is with me" phrase might not appear the same way in the Japanese version, while the comparisons with Dragon Ball Z would be near impossible to dismiss as a possible localization.
- The Force does not get stronger as a battle goes on. The Force isn't a life force, since wikipedia:Yuuzhan Vong are alive and are not connected to the Force.
- Really, "Ash's status as the lone person who can control aura is similar to that of Luke Skywalker during the original trilogy" is pushing it. Hard. --Raijinili 02:22, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
- Dragon Ball Z is perhaps the best way to compare Hadou/Aura (波導) and Ki (気, which in Chinese is pronounced qi and in Japan as ki). If you look at DBZ, most attacks in the series use Ki, a person's fighting spirit/inner strength, whereas certain special attacks use something different, such as the Spirit Bomb which uses spirit/life energy, and seems to be analogous to the use of Hadou/Aura which appears to be how the Pokémon World refers to life energy (you could say that Goku's Spirit Bomb is pretty much a super huge Aura Sphere). But, if you use up your fighting spirit, you become exhausted, but use up all of your life energy, and you're dead, such was the case with Sir Aaron and later his Lucario. So attacks such as Focus Blast (Kiai dame, most likely meaning inner-strength reservoir) and Focus Punch (Kiai Punch, inner-strength punch) use ki, whereas Aura Sphere (hadou dan, wave-guiding mass) uses hadou/aura, life energy. Though the use of Aura sphere seems to use the aura gathered from around the user (hence being referred to wave-guiding), which explains why continual use doesn't kill the user. Perhaps even the whole system of PP is based on ki, the fighting energy, which would explain why Focus Blast which uses one's own ki directly outside the body is so powerful but only has a base of 5 PP, but Focus Punch, which keeps the energy in the body (one's fist) has so much more. That both Focus attacks use Ki directly and that they are fighting-type moves gives credence that they are based on the Martial Art's use of kiai and explains their Japanese names. The fact is: Hadou/Aura is not the same as Ki/Qi, but it's not unrelated either. --Wikifixer 21:02, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
- It probably is based on energy sources such as Qi and Chakra but the Star Wars influence is clear from the repeated use of "The Aura is with me". I don't think Ash being the last one is pushing it either - the whole premise of the Aura Guardians is basically a fantasy version of the Jedi. --FabuVinny |Talk Page| 00:22, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
- Dragon Ball Z is perhaps the best way to compare Hadou/Aura (波導) and Ki (気, which in Chinese is pronounced qi and in Japan as ki). If you look at DBZ, most attacks in the series use Ki, a person's fighting spirit/inner strength, whereas certain special attacks use something different, such as the Spirit Bomb which uses spirit/life energy, and seems to be analogous to the use of Hadou/Aura which appears to be how the Pokémon World refers to life energy (you could say that Goku's Spirit Bomb is pretty much a super huge Aura Sphere). But, if you use up your fighting spirit, you become exhausted, but use up all of your life energy, and you're dead, such was the case with Sir Aaron and later his Lucario. So attacks such as Focus Blast (Kiai dame, most likely meaning inner-strength reservoir) and Focus Punch (Kiai Punch, inner-strength punch) use ki, whereas Aura Sphere (hadou dan, wave-guiding mass) uses hadou/aura, life energy. Though the use of Aura sphere seems to use the aura gathered from around the user (hence being referred to wave-guiding), which explains why continual use doesn't kill the user. Perhaps even the whole system of PP is based on ki, the fighting energy, which would explain why Focus Blast which uses one's own ki directly outside the body is so powerful but only has a base of 5 PP, but Focus Punch, which keeps the energy in the body (one's fist) has so much more. That both Focus attacks use Ki directly and that they are fighting-type moves gives credence that they are based on the Martial Art's use of kiai and explains their Japanese names. The fact is: Hadou/Aura is not the same as Ki/Qi, but it's not unrelated either. --Wikifixer 21:02, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Water Pulse
Water Pulse doesn't use Aura.Shadow1337 13:46, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
