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::::You literally said, ''"I think it's better to have all forms listed since it's not that confusing (going through these pages it seemed to be me a problem)."''.
::::You literally said, ''"I think it's better to have all forms listed since it's not that confusing (going through these pages it seemed to be me a problem)."''.
::::As far as Shaymin, I said "forms [that] do not have differences". Shaymin's Sky Forme has very explicit differences, in at least in its level up moves, and in its typing as well. If you want to argue about what's done with Shaymin, we can do that. But Giratina is not the same thing. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:22, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
::::As far as Shaymin, I said "forms [that] do not have differences". Shaymin's Sky Forme has very explicit differences, in at least in its level up moves, and in its typing as well. If you want to argue about what's done with Shaymin, we can do that. But Giratina is not the same thing. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:22, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
:::::You know exactly which forms I meant (hint: obviously not the Vivillon or Basculin forms who have no difference in their movesets). Giratina's forms have different tutor moves, just like Shaymin's. Shaymin's TM moves are the same for both forms and they are still listed separately. Most of the Shaymin forms' level up moves are the same and they are still listed in the level up section as separate. I don't want to argue but what about responding to these points instead of grasping at straws with me mentioning "all forms" twice now.
:::::[[User:Oneofthosedf|Oneofthosedf]] ([[User talk:Oneofthosedf|talk]]) 01:31, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

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Linking anime Pokémon

Just so you know, when anime Pokémon owned by main cast are linked, they are linked by the form they were in at the time. So when the context of a text is referring to Ash's Goomy, [[Ash's Goomy]] is correct as opposed to [[Ash's Goodra|Ash's Goomy]]. When the context of the text is referring to Ash's Goodra, just use [[Ash's Goodra]]. The linking style you used for Ash's Goomy is never applied (not anymore at least), so don't use it. ☼ BlazingFist ☼ 16:20, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Voice actor citations

Yes, it's pretty obvious the English voice actors you've put for various characters' Pokémon are correct, but just to be sure, please contact the voice actor on social media to verify. I know because I've done that before and I was asked the same thing. I've put [citation needed] tags on these Pokémon. (The exception is for Pokémon voiced by Bill Rogers. On Facebook, he says IMDb is a reliable source for knowing the Pokémon he voiced.) Technickal (talk) 17:20, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Nah, I'm done with this place.
Oneofthosedf (talk) 18:10, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Preview button

Please edit the whole page at once if you're going to add information to several sections, so the Recent Changes don't get clogged. Thank you. glikglak 13:49, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

OK. Oneofthosedf (talk) 13:55, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Hala's Crabrawler

Where did you get the information that Hala owns a Crabrawler from? --Maxim (talk) 19:41, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

Nevermind, I found the screenshot. Sorry for bugging you. --Maxim (talk) 19:43, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

Editing Learnsets

Be careful if you are going to add Learnset data, as you did at Iron Defense. You are at times adding inaccurate information or leaving messy spacings. I'm checking every page individually regardless and someone else doing some pages ahead of me does save time, but please try to get accurate information if you continue to help out. Thanks! CycloneGU (talk) 00:44, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

System got 503'd after I published it so I forgot to double check when it went up again. I'm sorry about that but a few mistakes are inevitable (so far I corrected more than I made but accuracy is the most important). Oneofthosedf (talk) 19:11, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
No worries! We appreciate that you want to help, and it does save time in the long run, I'm just trying to promote accuracy. I make mistakes, too (look how many move pages I have double-edited, or worse), and it's just trying to help you become a better editor. =) CycloneGU (talk) 00:58, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Forms

I really haven't kept track of whether you've been doing this for anyone besides Giratina, but I don't think we need duplicated rows for different forms. If they learn the move the same, then we should only have one row. That's how the tables on its species page are as well.

So can you undo the Giratina moves you've duplicated? And if you've done it for anything else, can you undo that too? Thanks. Tiddlywinks (talk) 00:42, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

Well, technically, this is how it is punctual. Forms have been all over the place. I'm just trying to make it uniformal and this way seems the most logical. Origin forme Giratina, Unbound Hoopa, B/W Kyurem didn't exist in the first games yet they were sometimes treated that way. I noticed that Pokemon whose forms have different learnsets are supposed to have different entries and a lot of times it wasn't clear. The form names have been named inaccurately as well, not to mention some mistakes (which is natural and not a problem). I think it's better to have all forms listed since it's not that confusing (going through these pages it seemed to be me a problem).
Look, I'll stop doing it for now but you can't say that these are gratuitous changes. Shaymin, for example, had its two forms separately listed in the TM section, even though the forms had no difference in TM compatibility. So, basically what I'm doing with Giratina is what Shaymin's been like for years.
Oneofthosedf (talk) 00:56, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
Some Pokemon have a large number of forms with no practical difference. If you think it's best to list all forms, that means we'll have to duplicate a great many rows for those Pokemon, which will only clutter things up. That's not smart. If forms do not have differences, only the base or a representative form should be included (without a form name, therefore implying that the row represents any form of the species). Tiddlywinks (talk) 01:03, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
I don't think all forms should be listed. Never said that. The ones I listed didn't exist in the first games of the generation they were introduced in and the way they were listed made it look like they were. This also should be a non-issue since what I was doing with Giratina is the same exact thing what was done with Shaymin and for years it hasn't been a problem. All these forms have different movesets as their base forms and where else would that be listed if not in the learnsets. I noticed that no form name given means all form of the species but that had mistakes and inconsistencies.
Oneofthosedf (talk) 01:12, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
You literally said, "I think it's better to have all forms listed since it's not that confusing (going through these pages it seemed to be me a problem).".
As far as Shaymin, I said "forms [that] do not have differences". Shaymin's Sky Forme has very explicit differences, in at least in its level up moves, and in its typing as well. If you want to argue about what's done with Shaymin, we can do that. But Giratina is not the same thing. Tiddlywinks (talk) 01:22, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
You know exactly which forms I meant (hint: obviously not the Vivillon or Basculin forms who have no difference in their movesets). Giratina's forms have different tutor moves, just like Shaymin's. Shaymin's TM moves are the same for both forms and they are still listed separately. Most of the Shaymin forms' level up moves are the same and they are still listed in the level up section as separate. I don't want to argue but what about responding to these points instead of grasping at straws with me mentioning "all forms" twice now.
Oneofthosedf (talk) 01:31, 11 December 2016 (UTC)