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title_ro

So wait, is the title_ro parameter on {{Chapterinfobox}} meant for direct translations or romanization? Because the name of the parameter led me to believe it was just the pronunciation. Schiffy (瀬藤健二) (Talk Contribs) 01:57, 4/10/2014 (UTC)

It's currently being used for the direct translation. I just changed it to match all the other manga articles. Sorry for any confusion ^^' --ZestyCactus 02:03, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

To staff: a few splits

I suggested a number of splits last Tuesday. That means it's now been over a week, and there's either been no response or hardly any. For the majority that have had no response, there is little chance more waiting will result in someone responding. I understand staff must review these things, so I'd appreciate it if you could bring these splits up with staff and get back to me on whether I would be allowed to perform them when I am ready to.

Perhaps I could implore staff to also consider a different request I made just today. I made this page, which I think should replace this one. That's a big enough change I think I need some consensus/approval. I know no one's really had a chance to respond to my suggestion at the moment, but you'll have to forgive me if I'm a little pessimistic about the chances of getting any response given the above examples... (And I'm not exactly a model of patience. =P ) I'll be happy enough to remind staff of this one in a week or so if that's necessary, though. Tiddlywinks (talk) 20:53, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

As you may have noticed, we're currently working through a backlog of splits. We're trying to work through the most important ones first, so these may take some time before being reviewed. Sorry for the inconvenience but just be patient for a little longer ^^' thanks for the message. --ZestyCactus 03:38, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Sprite boxes

I apologize if this isn't your jurisdiction, but I need to bring something up with the Board. To put it simply, I'm tired of having to dig back sprites from Crystal, FireRed/LeafGreen, Platinum, HeartGold/SoulSilver, and Black 2/White 2 from the dusty corners of the Archives and putting them onto their articles, where they belong and are, you know, used. The main Sprites box needs to change to account for these missing sprites, which is something I can't do. If individual cells can be given to the front sprites from every game (particularly ones reused from previous games in the same generation), back sprites can have one just as well. Please bring this initiative to the gang, call up whoever's the Wikicode Wizard, and let's get ourselves a truly representative sprite box. Thank you for your time.

P.S. I do think Japanese sprites should either remain the same or be incorporated into the main sprite box in a way that separates them and shows how anomalous they are. --TheVeryBest 00:51, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi! I have brought this up with other staff - it is something we have intended to do for a while, however it's encountered countless issues due to inconsistency of which Pokémon have modified sprites or not. @_@ so it hasn't happened just yet due to it giving problems such as that but rest assured it is something that is actually getting worked on. :P --ZestyCactus 03:38, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
Oh good. I won't be adding anymore "Other sprites" then. By "modified sprites," do you mean the Gen IV sprites that are insignificantly different from each other? Though it would be aesthetically nice to combine cells for games that reuse sprites, I know that this would give each Pokémon's sprite box different coding and complicate everything. I don't see how difficult it could be to add a few more columns and rows if we're just gonna build upon the current model, though… Oh, one more thing: How is getting the XY 3D models going? Still stuck on the permissions ordeal? --TheVeryBest 04:16, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
Minor point, but are the sprite sections going to be renamed? 3D models aren't sprites after all. And I recall someone mentioning that there're full Stadium and/or Colosseum models buried somewhere on the Archives. If there are, are those going to be added as well? glikglak 17:42, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
We could call it "Depictions" or something. I think the core series should stick together even though X/Y use 3D models, and we could have another box for side games like Stadium and Mystery Dungeon. --TheVeryBest 22:34, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
If it becomes an issue, I would suggest turning the Sprites section into a "Pokémon by appearance" section with a sub-section for sprites and for models. At the moment, though, it does not appear to be a big issue. --Super goku (talk) 01:21, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Possible new Berry templates

I've tried to ask Jo the Marten, head of games, whether new templates should be made for use with Gen VI Berries, or whether the old templates should be jerry-rigged to account for the differences, but Jo has not responded despite being online a number of times since I asked. Perhaps you can give me an answer instead? Tiddlywinks (talk) 17:20, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

It's not my decision to make alone, but I will bring it up with Jo and Kogoro next time I talk to them. --ZestyCactus 20:12, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Protean Ability, へんげんじざい = Phantasmagoria?

So apparently the old translation for へんげんじざい was Phantasmagoria, a type of theater invented in the 18th century which basically was more or less shadow puppetry. Someone undid this and changed it to Protean (which strange enough, Google Translate gives as a viable option to replace Phantasmagoria with)

So...what is the deal here...was Phantasmagoria the correct translation and the edit undone or was the edit correct?

If I were to defend Phatasmagoria as the correct one...I would take a guess it has to do with how the user can change their typing like how the projection on the wall changes...or something like that.

Anyways I brought it up to you because you admins are more knowledgeable about this stuff. Yamitora1 (talk) 07:00, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

I apologize for intruding, but I have to note that I originally did translate it as protean. Someone just changed it phantasmagoria without our notice. へんげんじざい means capable of ever-changing appearance, so protean (capable of changing shape)* is also a viable translation for it. --超龍Chao 08:01, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
I see, thanks for answering my question.Yamitora1 (talk) 00:49, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Sigs

I don't know if I am contacting the wrong person but, how do you make a sig? Lord Rayquaza (talk) 13:04, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

If you go to "Preferences" at the top right of the screen when you're logged in, you can do it from there. Make sure you tick the box that says "Treat the above as wikicode" if you want to do like fancy colours and stuff. Make sure it links to your user page or user talk page (or both). See the Signature policy for more info. Hope that's useful! --ZestyCactus 03:33, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

When I tried, it said something about a raw signature. Please can you help me! Lord Rayquaza (talk) 15:26, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

These pages Are both very helpful in understanding how to make a custom signature. Schiffy (瀬藤健二) (Talk Contribs) 15:34, 4/24/2014 (UTC)
Thanks! Lord Rayquaza ._. 15:53, 24 April 2014 (UTC)


Question

What do I need to do if I want to archive the golden eevee award? LORD RAYQUAZA ~(o_q)~ 19:07, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

*achive LORD RAYQUAZA ~(o_q)~ 20:28, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Aim to be a Card Master characters

Can you go to the chapter pages of the Aim to be a Card Master manga and put down which Pokémon was used by each character so I can get an idea about who played what as I can't tell which side played what card? PattyMan 05:12, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Sure thing, I should be able to get that done probably tomorrow night ^^' --ZestyCactus 03:14, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
Alright. :) PattyMan 03:21, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Scan

Do you or Ataro know what manga is this, based on a scan I found online? It is probably something related to Pokémon Tretta. PattyMan 01:41, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

The art style does look similar to either the Pokémon Battrio: Aim to be a Battrio Master!! manga or the Be a Master!! Pokémon BW manga, but none of the raw collections I use have that page. Schiffy (瀬藤健二) (Talk Contribs) 03:08, 5/18/2014 (UTC)
It's probably a manga written by Takashi Teshirogi since the art is similar to his other Pokémon works. PattyMan 03:34, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Image help

Hi I'm new at editing stuff here at bulbapedia and could you help me by uploading these two images: [1] [2] early thanks.User:Animaltamer705:31, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Psychic

Can you confirm if Ash's Butterfree and Sabrina's Abra used Psychic in the Electric Tale of Pikachu? I know that the move wasn't shown in the Japanese version but the wording in the English version is a little confusing. PattyMan 01:51, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Sabrina's Abra I am going to call a "no, not a chance". There's nothing that even vaguely confirms the use of Psychic, only Teleport. Butterfree, on the other hand, in ET03 Ash calls out "Butterfree, use your Psychic attack!" though there is all capitals in the manga so you can't tell if it's a proper noun ("Psychic" vs "psychic") I'm going to say that's fine anyway. Seems specific enough to me. --ZestyCactus 02:30, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Question

Can I be removed from the abuse and forcepreview groups? It's been over a year since I lost these privileges. TheShinyRoggenrola (talk) 02:14, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Infobox image

You used a personal image for your userpage infobox. Can you tell me how to do it? →PikaTepig999 17:21, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

I uploaded the pic to my Photobucket account and then pasted the link into my userpage. So this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/zeldascousin/becca-1.jpg becomes this: becca-1.jpg You can see the source code in my userpage for further details if you need. Note that I resized the image before uploading it so it literally appears as is. :P --ZestyCactus 02:26, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

So I will have to use SUBST for {{CharInfobox}}…… Anyway thanks! Also, could please you take a look at this page ? PikaTepig999 09:51, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

An error in the Finnish version - notable?

I noticed that there is a printing error in the Finnish Adventures vol. 1 (just released). In PS008, there are two pages from the previous round, causing two whole pages be removed. Is this notable enough to be noted in the article? Արիանո 14:22, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

If it was me, I would include it, so I would consider it notable! That is a pretty serious error haha. I want to buy the Finnish version but I have been lazy to search for it since there is no Amazon Finland XD --ZestyCactus 04:29, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
Okey-dokey. I'll probably incorporate it to the trivia section of the volume page. There is only one Finnish bookshop that ships to North America that I'm aware of, but the volume apparently is not in their assortment (at least not yet, they are very slow in updating their website) and the shipping of one book would take 3-5 weeks and cost 30 euro (43.35 Canadian dollars). Ō.Ō A bit pricey... Արիանո 18:19, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

Pokémon the First Movie Trading Cards

Myzou asked a question on Talk:Pokémon the First Movie Trading Cards, and since you've made significant contributions to that article, I hoped you might be able to answer their question.

I was also wondering if that page should perhaps have scans of the backs of all the cards? Or maybe only for the sticker cards (since they go together to form a larger picture)? Also, are scans of the normal cards preferred over scans of foil versions? And/or is it at all desired to have scans of the foil versions of all the cards? Tiddlywinks (talk) 02:22, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

I never intended to scan the backs, at least for now, since we already have the typed descriptions. Mostly, I'd rather get the fronts of the cards in there. I am also looking to update the other Topps articles to follow the standard I've set out here so that's currently a bigger priority than scanning the backs. Having the sticker cards backs seems like a good idea though, even if it's just put together to show what the completed puzzle looks like. I personally prefer to scan non-foil versions over foil versions if I have both, since I find in my scanner the foil ones show up kinda funny but the non-foil looks better. Again, I wouldn't prioritise scanning both for now. Maybe in the future we could show them side-by-side I guess, but since they show up funny when I scan them and it's the same image, I wouldn't consider it a big deal XD. --ZestyCactus 02:41, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
I understand. I'll just stick to the fronts for the majority and I'll pull out non-foil versions from my extras when I start doing some scanning in the near future. It appears I've only got one foil card that I don't have a non-foil version of. Maybe I'll troll EBay or something (the collector in me really wants to fill out my collection...). Tiddlywinks (talk) 03:05, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
If you only have the foil one (or only have easy access to the foil one) that's still a-okay, it is better than a blank spot and still represents the card. :P Though I wouldn't stop you from wanting to fill the gaps in the collection since I'd do the same XD --ZestyCactus 03:21, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Pokemon Adventures Box Sets

I just found out that within the next few months Viz is planning to release more box sets for their Pokemon Adventures volumes. First one for Ruby and Sapphire in September, and second for Diamond and Pearl/Platinum in October. Since this is a common thing with VIZ should there be at least a light mention of VIZ's box set releases? -Tyler53841 (talk) 16:39, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

It is actually on my bucket list to make an article about all of the manga boxed sets. Basically my idea is to list each box set, a pic of it, info on what volumes are included, any extras included, etc. Since more are being released, guess that makes it slightly more urgent XD you're welcome to go ahead and start one, but otherwise, yes, it's something I've planned to work on coming soon ^^' --ZestyCactus 17:33, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
The pictures aren't released yet for the new ones yet and it looks like a third box set is going to be released which is the second set for the mini black and white volumes. It doesn't need to be done right away as there is still a full month left. Here are the reference links [3] [4] [5]. On another note I did take care of volume 17 since the picture and info was already taken care of since as I do a free two-day shipping from Amazon I can translate the titles on the day of release and if you or anyone else do not create the mini-volume pages when the release date is close then I'll do it instead. -Tyler53841 (talk) 17:47, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
One thing to help you down the road is that the pictures for the new Box sets have been revealed. -Tyler53841 (talk) 16:43, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
Haha, I was just on the Black & White chapter page and noticed that it said the boxed set was "due to be released" on September 2nd. That reminded me that I should go back and finally make a page for them, haha! Thanks for the tip, I will probably be working on this tonight (since I'll also be doing some manga scans). --ZestyCactus 16:47, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
Speaking of tips, another one I should mention is that it looks like the mini-volumes will end at Volume 20 in February as the chapters are almost over. I planned to finalize this after the release next month just to avoid jumping the gun. Another clue is that if they release a third box set it will be the same length as number two. -Tyler53841 (talk) 17:46, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
While it's a good guess, I'd avoid mentioning anything for now since it's basically just speculative. Probably they will say something in Diamond Previews or something when it gets closer to the release. ^^' Thanks for your help! --ZestyCactus 02:51, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
Pretty much there are only 9 chapters left but I want to wait until October or even December first just to avoid problems. -Tyler53841 (talk) 03:49, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Grey in Golden Boys

Do you think Grey from the Golden Boys manga should be renamed as Grey (Golden Boys) since there is another character* with that name? ArcToraphim wasn't too sure about the matter. PattyMan 17:53, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

I forgot to say that pokemon.com confirmed the anime character's spelling as Grey too. PattyMan 17:57, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, Grey (Golden Boys) is fine. --ZestyCactus 02:42, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Spyspotter here

Come on. I've tried many, many times to prove I was productive. Can't you give me a second chance? (And if you do, please block this account and allow me to create a new one - I really don't want to be associated with my past.) -Spyspotter Fall Guy (talk) 18:49, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Image help

Hi, is it alright if you can upload a high quality version of this pic [6] early thanks (User:Animaltamer7)03:46, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

I can scan a better quality version of the image myself, which volume is it from? --ZestyCactus 04:04, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
It's in volume 1 round 6 (User:Animaltamer7)04:53, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
Done :) --ZestyCactus 05:45, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
again thanks :)(User:Animaltamer7)05:51, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Topps card scanning tips?

Since it sounded (and seems) like you scanned your own cards for the Pokémon the First Movie Trading Cards page, I was wondering if you might have any tips for getting good scans since your images look pretty good (to me anyways).

I tested out my scanner with some cards today, and it's a little short of ideal. If I put the cards against the edge of the scanner (so they're as straight as possible, though still not perfect), part of the edge doesn't get scanned. But if I move them away from the edge, it'll be harder to keep them straight/level.

These are the basic/best examples I produced: "photo" scan (2 MB jpg), when I had the cards all close together; "document" scan (15 MB png), when I had the cards against the edges and spaced out a bit (when I tried this with "photo" scan, it kept cropping out the cards into individual images...and not doing a stellar job of it); and "magazine" scan (16 MB png), when I had the cards spaced away from each other and the edges. (The darker "Pokemon at Play" is a foil card.) If you compare the last one to the other two, you can see how part of the edges isn't scanned. And all three also have slightly different qualities (at full size), and I'm not sure which is "best".

Should I just work with one of those and let the minor issues slide (like just straighten out any uneven images in an image manipulation program?), or do you have any tips to make better scans? And which type of scan is the "best" quality, or does it not really matter? Tiddlywinks (talk) 17:31, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

Yes, all the cards I uploaded are scans of my own collection :) I suppose what I do is most like the "document scan", on the flat part of my scanner the bottom right corner has this little arrow dealie and if I line up the cards on that side, the part that gets cut off is the minimum. I line em all up on the bottom so they stay straight (I hate scanning things crooked). If I line them up on the top though or too close to the far left side, too much gets cut off, so I just line up a few at a time starting from that bottom right corner. Honestly though any of your pictures look fine, I would suggest the magazine or document scan if it was me, but go with whatever you think is best quality cause honestly any of them looks acceptable to me. As for individual cards, my scanning program lets me customise the part that gets scanned, so I intentionally leave a bit of extra space around each individual card scan so that I can crop it in image editing software after. The whole thing is awfully time consuming lol. Thanks for helping me with the scans :) --ZestyCactus 03:47, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
I scanned my First Movie cards and this is a pretty representative example of what I came up with: 01 (1.5 MB). I just did some fairly conservative cropping for that (and some others at the moment) and you can see where the edge of the card stops. (Apparently either the sides of the scanner or of the ruler I was using as a straight-edge weren't perfectly perpendicular.) I'm wondering if that's good enough to upload like that or if I should try to improve that one way or another? Tiddlywinks (talk) 03:46, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
Ah, that looks fine to me. Over time my pictures got better too as I got more experience scanning :P But that looks good to me :P Thanks!! --ZestyCactus 05:03, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, I've already got another plan of attack in mind for next time. But anyways, cool, I'll probably be able to fill out the First Movie tomorrow or the next day (depending on how long uploading will take). Tiddlywinks (talk) 05:42, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
Omg, the article looks phenomenal and is exactly how I wanted all the trading card articles to look like from now on. Thank you so much for adding all those scans :) One day I'm gonna get off my lazy butt and upgrade all the other articles, too... just lots of scanning... @_@ but yeah, thanks a million! --ZestyCactus 16:50, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
Seeing as you updated the Advanced article, perhaps I should tell you what I'm in any shape to scan and update so we don't end up duplicating effort too much. I've got all of series 1 and I was gonna tackle that next. I've also got significant parts of series 2 and 3, except for Pokemon cards (I have some but not a lot) and die-cut cards. I've also got a moderate amount of Johto series 1 (might be less than half) and a very small amount of Johto League Champions...and one Chrome series 1 card. I don't have anything from Advanced, and certainly not Top 10. Tiddlywinks (talk) 06:38, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
I have a good chunk of series 1, but that might be best left to you if you have literally everything and are already working on it, haha. I also have a significant chunk of series 2 (including the Pokémon), but very little from series 3 (just some of the chase cards and a chrome version of Porygon. what's the deal with these chrome ones anyway? I have Chrome Charizard, Chansey and Porygon) and I have most of the Pokémon cards for Advanced as well, which I will be doing next ^^' unfortunately i have zero Johto or Johto League Champions, so you are on your own on that one. I have no Top 10 either :( perhaps I will do Advanced and series 2 (you can always add your series 2 cards after), if you do series 1 and the Johto ones? and I guess series 3, but since neither of us has it complete, i'll just add my cards to your list if you don't have them already XD p.s. the Movie 2000 cards page looks AWESOME T_T thanks for all your help :) --ZestyCactus 16:33, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
I should also go into my closet and haul out the empty packets so I can update all the jpgs to png and re-scan them...blehhhh lol --ZestyCactus 16:34, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
Sounds good. I'll do series 1, then Johto(s), then series 3, and then series 2 (either whatever I have or whatever you haven't uploaded if you've gotten to it by then). The Chrome cards are apparently special rereleases of #1-151 in two sets (Chrome series 1 & 2)[7]. It apparently has a veritable buttload of rare parallel sets, and they apparently weren't guaranteed (that is, where most series had X regular cards and 1 foil card in a pack, Chrome packs apparently just included the variants at different rates, like chase cards).
FYI, what I have/am missing of series 3 is: have Pokemon 118, 123, 124, 126, 128, 130, 132, 135-137, 139, 141, 142, 144, 145, 149, and 151; have the checklist; missing OR10-13 and OR16; missing puzzle #5; have die-cut #7. Tiddlywinks (talk) 17:47, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
Okay great :) I scanned all my Advanced and series 2 cards, just gotta upload them and add the descriptions @_@ ah, so you don't have any of the pop-up cards from series 3, then? I have a few of those. I guess we'll deal with the chrome ones after we get all these done. --ZestyCactus 03:57, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
Oh, I guess actually ended up just describing my incomplete subsets...I actually do have the rest (HV6-17, PC6-10, and pop-up 1-10). Tiddlywinks (talk) 04:07, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

I've got my Series 3 stuff scanned and ready to upload, I just need to sit down and do that sometime in the near future. (And I can clean up and upload my few Johto League Champions bits in a relative flash.) Will you be able to upload your Series 2 stuff soon, or else can you tell me what you have (or don't have)? I'd like to scan anything I have that you don't next. If you'll be a while, I could also make the Series 2 tables/texts. Tiddlywinks (talk) 02:33, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi! I've scanned all my series 2 cards, I'm just in the midst of cropping and uploading them. I just got busy with work and the Projects overhaul so I didn't get down to finishing that ^^' ideally I should have it at least uploaded this weekend :) --ZestyCactus 03:31, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Image help

Hi can you help me upload these pics: http://sta.sh/02b2u798v19j http://sta.sh/01sruq6iyg9q http://sta.sh/032umt0voyw again early thanks. User:Animaltamer710:11, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Sure, I will get to it tomorrow and I will scan them :) --ZestyCactus 03:09, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
Hi, I have uploaded a:File:Old Amber Adventures.png and a:File:Evolutionary stones Adventures.png. I thought that evolutionary stone image was more appropriate for the wiki since it had all four in one image, rather than two separate images. Nonetheless, I still uploaded them to photobucket if you needed them for some reason:
Cheers! --ZestyCactus 02:51, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
Oh, I didn't know there was already an image with all four in one pic, well I was planning on using the two in a gallery I was working on, the old amer looks great, thanks. :) User:Animaltamer709:31, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Pokemon TV Animation Comic I choose you ISBN

ISBN10: 1569314551 ISBN13: 9781569314555 here you go, I am not sure which one is meant to be used, but since you made the article I thought I would give you closure on the ISBN finally being found. Unfortunately not sure which one to put on the article. http://isbndb.com/book/pokemon_tv_animation_comic_i_choose_you http://www.openisbn.com/isbn/9781569314555/ Yamitora1 (talk) 22:21, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

The ISBN converter on isbn.org gave me this number 978-1-56931-455-5, is this what we put down as the ISBN? Yamitora1 (talk) 22:25, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
ISBN-10 is preferred when available. Thanks! --ZestyCactus 03:09, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
No problem, I am glad I could help make the article more complete ^u^ Yamitora1 (talk) 21:02, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Creating New Pages and Removing Old Content

This weekend I began the process of updating the Pokémon Trading Card Game Online pages. In so doing, I have encountered two problems, which are described in greater detail on my talk page. I appreciate your assistance in largely helping me get past my beginner's learning curve this weekend. --Marlofkark (talk) 20:28, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

A question

A user has inquired about a page concerning Lisa Courtney, a Guinness Record holder for the largest collection of Pokémon memorabilia. Currently, her page is under Orphaned status, so if her page is notable enough, where's the best place to link to her page if we are to remedy that status? Berrenta (talk) 18:59, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

I'm still thinking about this, I'll get back to you soon. Sorry for my slow reply! ^^ --ZestyCactus 03:51, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Questions

Is this a better image for Gold's kakuna? [[8]] Also is it alright if i make pokemon templates for Cheren, Bianca and Shauna (Hugh, Tierno and Trevor for later)? User:Animaltamer709:51, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

For the image, it's about six of one and half a dozen of the other. They're both fine to me. ^^' as for the templates, I assume you mean something like this, right? For Cheren and Bianca, honestly I'd skip it, since they only have one Pokémon each with a full article all to itself, so it doesn't really seem worth it. Same with Shauna - she only has like three Pokémon so I'd say it's not really necessary for now. Thanks for the message, though! --ZestyCactus 03:51, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
Ok, so what about Wally, can I make one for him (when he gets more pokemon articles for him I mean). User:Animaltamer713:56, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
Again, I'd skip it for now since only one of his Pokémon has an article. However, like any other character, if circumstances changed and, for example, he has a huge role in a future ORAS story and he gets more Pokémon articles, then sure. Same with the above characters. It's mostly just for ease of navigation. If a character has a lot of Pokémon with articles, the navigation template's useful. If most of the info is already on the character's main page, then skip it. That's why it's mainly Pokédex holders that have navigation templates - since they have more prominent roles in the story, their Pokémon appear more often, they are generally shown with more Pokémon, and their Pokémon often have character development outside of battle. --ZestyCactus 03:22, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

New Pages Question

I tried asking Ataro this a few days ago and haven't received a response. So, I'm going to ask you. Can the Wanted Pages seen here be created as stubs? Or do you want it so there is more info than a stub to have them created? Thanks! Adamws (talk) 01:48, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Omg, please create the stubs if you have enough information. I've loafted on them because I didn't know what rounds are in them but if you want to create them even as stubs, go for it ;) --ZestyCactus 04:14, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
Is it still ok even if the page is just the basic "skeleton" of the page. Or are you wanting more information for them to be created? Adamws (talk) 05:14, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
Try to locate an ISBN number if you can. Otherwise, it's fine. It'll need to be created at some point anyway. --ZestyCactus 05:15, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
Ok. Thanks. Just wanted to make sure it was ok. Adamws (talk) 05:19, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Question!

Hi there. I saw on the news page that you're searching for translators, and wondered if I could start the Swedish one, if it's possible of course. (HenrikBTechi (talk) 10:07, 30 September 2014 (UTC))

Hi! We are indeed accepting staff drive applications for all languages. If you're interested, you can apply by this form on the forums. (You can simply specify Swedish under "Other" on the form). If you're looking for other ways to help as well, our article Pokémon in Sweden is rather bare to tell you the truth. ;) either way, good luck with your application! Thanks for your message. --ZestyCactus 05:23, 1 October 2014 (UTC)


Images

Can these images replace Tate & Liza's Solrock and Lunatone, since I saw Ataro uploaded a new image for Roxanne's Probopass.User:Animaltamer708:38, 5 October 2014 (UTC) [9] [10]

Steven's Metagross and Akira's Charizard

Do you think Steven's Metagross and Akira's Charizard should get their own articles? Metagross did serve as Steven's main/signature Pokémon in the games, recently appeared in the anime, and made some appearances in Pokémon Adventures. As for Akira's Charizard, Akira is the main character and did rely on Charizard many times, but the article may be short. PattyMan 03:05, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Metagross would probably be okay. Charizard I would not make an article for now. While it fits the notability criteria, I would prefer to expand the existing section before splitting it off into an article. If we split it off now it would just be a stub so I think the information is more useful in the spot it is. As it expands further it may be worth splitting one day but for right now, nope :P --ZestyCactus 07:55, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
Akira's Charizard will become a redirect for the time being. PattyMan 21:28, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

ORAS manga

Is it too early to be adding in info from Pokemon Omega Ruby Crimson Passion and Pokemon Alpha Sapphire Indigo Wisdom, the new ORAS manga? Dogasu has some info about it though. On another note, I'm not sure if Ataro suggested this before but I was thinking that we should only list locations that have been named, called out, or revealed later on. For example, in the anime (although this example is using a different media), the Pokéathlon was located in Camellia Town instead of next to Johto's National Park. Cities/Towns that don't appear in the games have happened many times before. PattyMan 04:40, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

If you have information, I don't see why it shouldn't be added. I don't know much about that manga yet unfortunately so it's up to you for now :P as for your suggestion, I suppose it seems logical. You mean how some chapters say like "Location: A field", right? --ZestyCactus 04:05, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
I actually know very little about that ORAS manga but I'll do my best with the information. As for my other statement; yeah, I do mean how some chapters would say that such as your example with Location: A field. The same would apply if a character mentioned that they are in a numbered route or city from games. However, if someone/chapter mentioned a forest doesn't mean that it was Viridian Forest or Petalburg Forest, could be any forest. Many of the images of the locations I recently uploaded were all locations that were mentioned in the chapter, on a plus side. PattyMan 04:23, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Black and White

Since the lockdown is over, I'll take care of the English titles tomorrow. Also if I create a new page for Volume 19 I won't list the chapters as 3 chapters until I get the book since I won't go against you on this. Also for X and Y, I'll only perform a page move on X's Khangskhan if it's nickname will be different. For the volume I'll leave it alone and report back what I learn first, though I'll still handle the chapter pages' titles myself. -Tyler53841 (talk) 05:16, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Once you get Volume 19, feel free to add the rounds to Volume 20 as well since it's the last volume. I just feel more comfortable waiting until Volume 19's rounds are confirmed :P I think Garu and Kogaru might get new English nicknames since their names are based on Garura (Kangaskhan's Japanese name) but we'll see when the volume comes out tomorrow and move it then ;) as for the volume itself, if it turns out to be different like I predicted, you can make a page for it based on this if you want otherwise I'll do it myself if you tell me which rounds are in it. If it turns out like the Japanese volume (extremely unlikely but whatevs) then you can just add the publications. I'll be getting it on Wednesday anyway so it's all good. Cheers! --ZestyCactus 05:32, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Final Results

As you predicted Viz has released only three chapters with their release (as least it keeps the Japanese releases ahead). I took care of the translation of the titles for both X and Y, as well as Black and White, along with do the page move to create the Kanga and Li'l Kanga page. I'll let you deal with creating a page like the "Pokémon XY Vol. 1" (and Vol. 2 page) using the titles I translated and modifying the X and Y (chapter) page to improve what I started last night and updating VIZ's profile with the X and Y data if you want. Also I created Volume 20 for Black and White but I need help disabling the next template as there will not be a volume 21 and as easily predicted both 19 and 20 do in fact have 3 chapters each. At this point Viz will only be releasing 3-4 chapters for the mini-volumes. I also had Pattyman aid me with the Archive-related work for the Kanga and Li'l Kanga business -Tyler53841 (talk) 23:38, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Pokemon Adventures Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire

Here is a recent article from Anime New Network with a big announcement regarding this. [11] -Tyler53841 (talk) 16:29, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Ash's Triple Threat

The article's done if you want to check it over or anything. Just wanted to let you know! Ki (talk) 01:01, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

It's basically perfect. Thanks again! --ZestyCactus 05:08, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Gen VI uploads

Since Kogoro would seem busy, I'm hoping someone else can give me an answer on this, and the message on the Archives does say I only need to contact an Advisory Council member... I asked Kaphotics (on Project Pokemon) about X/Y and ORAS images and using stuff on Bulbapedia, and he directed me to a few links where I could find many things of interest. May I upload that stuff to the Archives? Tiddlywinks (talk) 11:42, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

What exactly do you mean by "many things of interest"? --ZestyCactus 06:55, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
I mean a bunch of ripped sprites from the games... (mostly X/Y, I think; some ORAS, I know). Wallpapers, minisprites, bag/menu components, and much, much more. Not every image is quite worth uploading, but there's plenty to work through if I'm given permission. This is a modest example of some of what I'm referring to. (It was SciresM who actually informed me it was okay to use that research directory.) Tiddlywinks (talk) 08:02, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
So, is this being held up, or do I need to tell you something more, or what...? These things have been freely offered from what should be trustworthy sources. Just tell me what you need to satisfy whatever concerns you have and allow this stuff to be uploaded, and I'll do my darndest to answer to your request. Tiddlywinks (talk) 12:14, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the additional information. The reality is that this is not my decision alone — I still have to discuss this with Kogoro and the other archives staff. I understand it can be frustrating to wait for a response — but my hands are tied right now. It is a busy time of year for all of us with other commitments outside the wiki and I haven't yet had a chance to discuss this with the other staff. Rest assured that I have not forgotten about this and when I have an answer, I'll relay it to you. I'd just ask you to wait patiently for a little while longer. Thanks. --ZestyCactus 05:02, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
I wish I could wholly trust in staff's attention to this matter, but sadly, that is not in my nature. At the very least, I will remind you of the strength of my desire to see an answer. Since the holidays have come to an end, I am sincerely hoping I can receive one soon now. If you expect some further significant delays, I would be very grateful to hear explanations as to their nature. Or if you need anything more of me, you have but to ask. Tiddlywinks (talk) 18:44, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
Well, tonight I finally had a chance to discuss this with Kogoro and she says that spriters resource can be used as an image source. I've noticed we have most of the urgently needed images uploaded by now anyway, so what exactly were you looking to add? Sorry for the delay in my response, we've all been busy and this sort of thing is not an area of expertise for me, so I have to ask the other staff before going ahead. I wouldn't want to rush a response to you just because you're burning to add stuff and then it turns out I was wrong and then that would mean we both wasted time :P either way, let me know if you have any additional concerns. In the future, please try to keep image-related discussions on the Bulbagarden Archives, all active staff members do check their Archives talk pages as well. --ZestyCactus 04:38, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
Off the top of my head, I still want Poke Puffs and wallpapers, for example. And I'll certainly be checking if there are still any item or menu sprites that still need uploading. I saw that some were, but I haven't tried to keep track.
Okay, I'll keep Archives at Archives. I just didn't think it mattered that much, and I don't otherwise have reason to check there, so this was kind of easier for me. Anywho, roger wilco. Tiddlywinks (talk) 04:52, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Pokémon XY manga picture

The picture for Vol. 2 of VIZ's release is up on Amazon so it would be just about the appropriate time to create a list of volumes for that series. Pretty much the cover picture is something completely new and it turns out that the picture after the final chapter in Vol. 1 is Vol. 2's cover picture. -Tyler53841 (talk) 17:41, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, I think so, especially seeing how long the BW series got, there's no reason not to now. I think we need a list page for the Japanese ones too... --ZestyCactus 17:47, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
Thank you. One last thing to do is to update the template for List of rounds in the twelfth chapter of Pokémon Adventures. As long as someone can put up code for the Viz Media releases I can duplicate it when I translate the English titles much like I carefully did before with the Black and White chapter. -Tyler53841 (talk) 22:59, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Moveentry Templates

I'm trying to add the split column like, for example, in Gen. III (RS/FRLG/E) and IV (DP/HGSS/P) and already contacted Kogoro regarding this, but as you noted Kogoro has been absent (the last edit being the 15th). Are you comfortable enough with adding the ORAS tag to allow the column split on those templates? This is really needed only for Dive right now, and I'm about to import a batch of Kalos specimens to check if they are even capable of learning the move, but wanted to wait until the tag was in before actually editing in everything. Dive doesn't exist as an HM in Kalos, hence why I don't want to imply that it does by doing a full column. I did include Wailmer and Wailord since Wailmer can be caught with Dive, and it can be used for testing purposes. CycloneGU (talk) 20:05, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

I'll try right now but I am really bad with code to tell you the truth so I can't promise anything ^^' --ZestyCactus 04:25, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
Nope, I'm in way over my head. I'll bring it up with the other staff though. Sorry! --ZestyCactus 04:36, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
No worries, it's not a rush. I already figured Kogoro will have to do it. I could copy and play with it in my userspace, but I can't set it once it's done, that and it might be over my head too. I saw Werdnae, the former EIC and certainly a good person to ask, but he's also inactive right now. So yeah...when it happens, it happens. =) CycloneGU (talk) 05:09, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Welcome Wagon

Is that one of your jobs? I always see you being the one welcoming people. =D CycloneGU (talk) 07:51, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Lol it's not like an official job that's been assigned to or delegated to me or anything, I just like welcoming new users :P One thing I found when I was first starting out is it was hard to find someone approachable to ask basic questions on wiki style and link templates and stuff so I try to help new users starting out :P --ZestyCactus 03:39, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
Ah, I just try to learn as I go. I do know what you're saying about feeling like it's hard to approach someone for help; sometimes, it's not always clear who might be the right person to ask, as well. CycloneGU (talk) 03:48, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Pokémon Adventures update

All the English version cover pictures for the three remaining Pokémon Adventures volumes for Emerald have been revealed, so you can handle it at anytime you wish. -Tyler53841 (talk) 03:16, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

Names

Were you able to get the English names of the characters for the Be the Best! Pokémon B+W manga? The chapters and manga name appears to be taken care of. PattyMan 04:43, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

Oh, yeah! I got the volume a while back and I went around to update the chapter names. I'd quickly checked and I saw that Monta, Cheren and Bianca's names were the same, so I never got back to those pages yet until now ^^' looks like everyone keeps their Japanese names (well, except Bel, but she's Bianca in everything so they're just being consistent) and that Bōsōzoku King who is based on the Biker Trainer class is renamed "Biker King", but that's just a translation if anything ^^' --ZestyCactus 05:04, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

Gyarados image

Hey, Zesty can you help me upload this for Silver's multiple Gyarados? [[12]]
Animaltamer704:50, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

I am so sorry, I don't know how I managed to miss this message until now. I have uploaded the image at a:File:Silver Gyarados Adventures.png. Thanks for your patience. ;__; --ZestyCactus 16:01, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Pokémon Adventures chapter page idea

If you saw my recent work, besides providing the last three chapters english titles for Black and White, I also updated the trivia's on the remaining chapters and it got me an idea is that for that it can be improved to cover the volumes where there chapter collections are different from the official numbering since only the official volume number is listed in the volume at the top of that chapter page and I have a few ideas I can suggest if you have any interest. -Tyler53841 (talk) 03:31, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Ah, thank you for adding those trivia. I got the volume a few days ago but I've been busy so I hadn't had a chance to update the titles myself ^^' I'll always listen to any suggestions so fire away :P --ZestyCactus 03:44, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
My strongest idea is to improve presentation is this.

For the trivia in PS461

The purpose is to keep the relevant trivia together and make it more presentable. It could also be put into its own section and handled a similar way but I think my first idea will work better. While it will start out with similar number volume numbers as the one in the infobox up top, it will later deviate due to the difference for that. Also for now a small trivia can be done for the X and Y chapters, but will need a similar format later in the future once the actual volumes come out. -Tyler53841 (talk) 04:25, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

I like it, although I'm not sure if Italy needs to be mentioned... the French volumes should be mentioned, because they're a different format, but the Italian volumes are the same format as the North American ones. (Also they're not published by VIZ Media in Italy so it would get a little long-winded to name both publishers) so idk users can follow the volume link or the "in other languages" links on the {{Epilang}} if they want to know the format. But yeah I do like your format overall. so i guess something like

or just cut out the Italy thing altogether and it's good. i agree that it is more organized and nice looking haha :P --ZestyCactus 04:51, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

If you don't mind additional input... perhaps instead of in the trivia section we incorporate it in either the intro of the article or within the round template? So, something like "Collected in... and so on. ht14 05:01, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
The other idea would be to format it similarly to that of the TCG, where we have a "Release information" section devoted to when the round was collected. ht14 14:24, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
As long as it improves the quality then I am fine with the best solution for this on how it would be presented. If it is possible for it to be incorporated into that template, then I would like to include X and Y as well as it would be a good way to start it up before the larger volumes eventually come out. -Tyler53841 (talk) 19:50, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
I might suggest to stick with the trivia for now. The opening line doesn't usually mention what volume it's collected in anyway (except for a few outdated Magical Pokémon Journey articles), and I don't really wanna mess with the code on the template at this time, although it might be good to think about in the future since it's also kind of inflexible with one-shot/non-volume manga. It also begs the question if the monthly issues should be listed with the mini-volumes as well. That would affect more series and might be a factor on me getting someone to help me with the code (code is quite a struggle for me). :P --ZestyCactus 16:01, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
I am not good with code myself except reproducing it. As long as someone can do it successfully I can reproduce it since I usually preview when using templates. -Tyler53841 (talk) 16:23, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

In other languages

In pages with an "In other languages" section, should the French and Spanish names be marked with "fr" and "es" or "fr_eu" and "es_eu"? Especially in the game-related articles, where the European French versions have been released in Canada, and with Generation VI, where these languages can be selected no matter where the game is bought, it doesn't make sense to mark them that way when there isn't a different "Latin American Spanish" or "Canadian French" translation for the games.

Should Korean terms be romanized or translated? Consistency says that a translation should be used like with Japanese terms, but a lot of pages have romanizations instead. Additionally, if it is to be romanized, what is the romanization method to be used? List of Korean Pokémon names uses the Revised romanization of Korean and McCune-Reischauer methods. -Abcboy (talk) 03:31, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

I would prefer "fr" and "es" over "fr_eu" and "es_eu" since it reflects that everywhere the game (or whatever media) is available in French or Spanish, those are the names that are used. {{Langtable}} actually links to a disambiguating "Pokémon in French" and "Pokémon in Spanish" page anyway. Same for "pt" if it's the same in European and Brazilian Portuguese.
For the Korean stuff, I would prefer translations to keep consistent like with Japanese terms. I don't have an immediate answer for the romanization style, I'd have to discuss that with the other staff...although it might not be needed anyway if everything's been converted to translations anyway. ^^' --ZestyCactus 03:44, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Contest Conditions

Hey Zesty, I have noticed that the contest condition pages have the requests to add the information from ORAS. I have created this. I think that it can be useful because adding the ORAS information into the current template will make it way too wide. Also, some moves have switched their contest conditions (an example is Aqua Tail). Doing the split between Gen III/IV and ORAS contest moves probably would be a better choice then having all together in one table/template. Adamws (talk) 00:36, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi! Thanks for the message, I'll show it to the other staff the next chance I get and I'll let you know what's good after that. Thanks! --ZestyCactus 05:22, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
Hello! So it seems that Kogoro's also got something in the works for this issue so if anything you may wish to contact her directly on that talk page I just linked. Thanks for waiting ^^' --ZestyCactus 06:23, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

List of Pokémon by National Pokédex number, "VIdex"

The issue at Talk:List of Pokémon by National Pokédex number#Multiple Pokédeces in Generation VI has been almost completely ignored by staff, despite bringing up what I believe to be a rather big issue. Allow me, then, to plead it directly with you.

Under List of Pokémon by National Pokédex number#Generation VI, the "VIdex" column uses unadorned numbers like "001" and "002", despite the fact that, for any such number, there are conceivably three different Pokedexes which that number may refer to. In some cases (such as Bunnelby and Inkay), this even means that two Pokemon are listed with apparently the same "regional" number. This should not be an acceptable state of affairs.

Earlier this week, I made a user page (User:Tiddlywinks/List of Pokémon by National Pokédex number), hoping to save staff the trouble of fixing the page up themselves and hopefully expediting the resolution of this issue. But it's been a few days and I'm not pleased to see that there's still been no response, despite resorting to a shout-out in my edit summary to the list's talk page. And so we arrive at my decision to finally take this directly to a staff member. I hope you can check my user page and save the changes into the mainspace page soon. Thank you.

(FYI, on my user page, I also tweaked the table headers so that the headers for the "regional" dex columns link to their respective dex pages, and at the same time I tweaked "VIdex" to something I thought more appropriate, considering that the new Hoenn Pokedex could reasonably be considered a "VIdex" as well...) Tiddlywinks (talk) 11:53, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Seems fine to me so I went ahead and updated the page. I deleted your user page cuz I figure you don't need it anymore (and it has categorizations) but if you want it restored for some reason then let me know. --ZestyCactus 06:23, 21 February 2015 (UTC)