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I was thinking that maybe it would be better visually and more organizing to put all of Go's Pokémon in the section "Kept at Sakuragi Park", in the ActivePoké Template, and link them with another article "List of Pokémon owned by Go" (except Scyther who already owns its own article). What do you think?
I was thinking that maybe it would be better visually and more organizing to put all of Go's Pokémon in the section "Kept at Sakuragi Park", in the ActivePoké Template, and link them with another article "List of Pokémon owned by Go" (except Scyther who already owns its own article). What do you think?
I'm showcasing the example below.


'''At Sakuragi Institute:'''
''Note: I only included a few of his mons to point out the idea.
'''''At Sakuragi Institute:'''


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| {{ActivePoké|Go|Pinsir|Go Pinsir.png|bug|link=no}}
| {{ActivePoké|Go|Pinsir|Go Pinsir.png|bug|link=no}}
| {{ActivePoké|Go|Weedle|Go Weedle.png|bug|link=no}}
| {{ActivePoké|Go|Weedle|Go Weedle.png|bug|link=no}}
|-
| {{ActivePoké|Go|Kakuna|Go Kakuna.png|bug|link=no}}
| {{ActivePoké|Go|Beedrill|Go Beedrill.png|bug|poison|link=no}}
| {{ActivePoké|Go|Venonat|Go Venonat.png|bug|poison|link=no}}
| {{ActivePoké|Go|Scyther|Go Scyther.png|bug|flying}}
|-
| {{ActivePoké|Go|Taillow|Go Taillow.png|normal|flying|link=no}}
| {{ActivePoké|Go|Cascoon|Go Cascoon.png|bug|link=no}} (x3)
| {{ActivePoké|Go|Tentacool|Go Tentacool.png|water|poison|link=no}}
| {{ActivePoké|Go|Mantyke|Go Mantyke.png|water|flying|link=no}}
|-
| {{ActivePoké|Go|Sentret|Go Sentret.png|normal|link=no}}
| {{ActivePoké|Go|Misdreavus|Go Misdreavus Stantler.png|ghost|link=no}}
| {{ActivePoké|Go|Stantler|Go Misdreavus  Stantler.png|normal|link=no}}
| {{ActivePoké|Go|Dewgong|Go Dewgong.png|water|ice|link=no}}
|-
| {{ActivePoké|Go|Skwovet|Go Skwovet.png|normal|link=no}}
| {{ActivePoké|Go|Darmanitan|Go Darmanitan.png|fire|link=no}}
| {{ActivePoké|Go|Sandile|Go Sandile.png|ground|dark|link=no}}
| {{ActivePoké|Go|Golurk|Go Golurk.png|ground|ghost|link=no}}
|-
| {{ActivePoké|Go|Cubone|Go Cubone.png|ground|link=no}}
|}
|}

Revision as of 21:44, 23 March 2020

One can only imagine the mess this page may become the more Gou goes on his 100% capture rate catching sprees. Panky.. (talk) 16:56, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Gender confusion

Is Go actually female? There's more evidence to suggest otherwise, but I need to be certain. PDL (talk) 02:04, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Go's VA is male, and to my knowledge, male VAs are rarely, if ever used to voice female characters in Japan. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 02:28, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
His character info on the official site refers to him as a boy (少年). --超龍Chao 02:40, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
Well, there you have it. (I too was expecting Go to be female, but I digress.) GrammarFreak01 (talk) 03:16, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
Somehow the person I'm arguing with over Go's gender still believes that Go is actually female. But I'm convinced otherwise. PDL (talk) 04:04, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
A recent interview confirms them to be nonbinary. JordanTH (talk) 23:30, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
Sorry, but that was confirmed to be false. All that was stated is that he's an androgynous male. Ataro (talk) 00:16, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Pinsir and Scyther's personalities

Pinsir and Scyther already showed personality.

Pinsir: Like most of its species it is agressive and hostile, however after capture it showed to be affectionate, as it was seen hugging Go while biting his head ala James's Victreebell and Carnivine. It also was seen racing with Scorbunny and Venonat.

Scyther: Being more focused on training since it was seen practicing the speed of its strikes, just like a kendo fighter training.

Do these counts? Esquilo30 (talk) 15:13, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

At the moment, they aren't worthy of their own characters pages for which personality would be added. I would give them more time before adding it.--BigDocFan (talk) 15:26, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

Oh ok. Esquilo30 (talk) 15:31, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

Rika Adachi

Rika Adachi is down as voicing Taillow, do we have a source for this?--BigDocFan (talk) 11:09, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Never mind, found it.--BigDocFan (talk) 11:27, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Separate sections

Should we maybe have separate sections for the Pokemon Go actually used at least 1 in battle or something similar (like a tournament of some sort, etc.), and then have the rest just be boxes with pictures? It would help us avoid all the unnecessary clutter if he does end up capturing like 800 mons.--ShallowShaddoll (talk) 17:28, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

If it gets that far, I'd just make a new page that lists all his Pokemon.Roserade57 (talk) 04:02, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

Possible trivia and re-wording

I'm not sure if these could be reworded or if they are even trivia worthy but firstly, Go is the first male main character to be seen starting out as a new trainer since Ash (May, Dawn, Serena, and Lillie are, of course, all female).

Secondly, Go obtained his second Pokémon before any other new trainer (as above) being 4 episodes after his debut (May was 13 episodes later, Dawn 8 episodes, Serena 44 episodes, and Lillie not at all). He is also the earliest of all main characters to obtain six or more Pokémon (granted, he may not be known to have 6 Pokémon on hand at the same time but he still has more than 6).

Finally, he's the first main character besides Ash to be seen catching a Fire-type Starter Pokémon and the first (again, besides Ash) to catch a Starter outside a flashback since May's Bulbasaur 743 episodes earlier. Dawn's Cyndaquil was hatched from an egg given to her by Lyra, Lana's Popplio was caught in a flashback, the rest of the starters were given to them or caught before May's Bulbasaur or by Ash. Masser (talk) 23:03, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

  1. Not important, gender doesn't matter at all.
  2. Also not important. First capture is the only one in this instance that would be important.
  3. This one is notable.--ForceFire 05:50, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
I've added the third point of trivia but left out the part about physically catching the Fire-type starter Pokémon. That seems way too specific and non-notable. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 06:05, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, I thought the first wouldn't be important but thought I'd put in here on the off chance it was or could be reworded, I thought the part about having six Pokémon in the second point would be notable but hey, that's why I checked, and thanks for adding the third point. Masser (talk) 20:36, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
You're welcome. :) GrammarFreak01 (talk) 20:37, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
Ah, "earliest", didn't see that word. I think it's notable, it's something that rarely happens to other characters besides Ash.--ForceFire 04:56, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
But the Fire-type wording is too specific and obvious. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 20:55, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Dewgong's gender

In its debut episode, Go's newly catched Dewgong started chasing another Dewgong with whom it fell in love. That Dewgong was drawn with long, feminine eyelashes and had a clear female voice. Should this be considered an evidence of Go's Dewgong's gender (male)? --Astrena (talk) 14:54, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

No. If it wasn't stated, we don't know its gender.--ForceFire 16:05, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
But Force Fire, isn't the way it was presented just a way of confirming it? I mean, what else would be a way of confirmation? --Hilaru Wazana (talk) 01:54, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
The only way to confirm genders, in this case at least since Dewgong doesn't have gender differences, is either if a character explicitly calls it a male/female or if it gets affected by Attract/Cute Charm. Neither of which happened. And we're not using behavioral patterns or appearances that are considered "girly", because that is not evidence on ones gender.--ForceFire 04:49, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Notability for Go's Pokémon.

I have some question, what does a Go's Pokémon need to be considered notable?What are the rules with him?I mean, his Pokés have punctual appearances in several episodes. He's been taking turns among them. And some of them already have more content than other main characters' Pokémon. Is there a consensus? Because, for example, there is no reason why Cubone does not have his page right away. And well, he's a main character like everyone else.Hikaru Wazana (talk) 12:38, 01 March 2020 (UTC)

Main character or not, we cannot treat Go's captures like the others. If we gave each caught Pokemon an article, then we'd have over two dozen articles for Pokemon that for the most part do nothing but sit in the background. And why does Cubone need a page? What did Cubone do to warrant having one now? It didn't do anything other than be your standard "victim Pokemon of the week". Ataro (talk) 22:14, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
In the case of Cubone, he falls into the first rule of the main characters' Pokémon(Bulbapedia:Manual of style)."If they did not, then they would have to have had a significant impact on the plot of the episode or the series as a whole." Cubone won an episode for his capture, as did just about every protagonist in the anime.
Another one that already has a reasonable content is Scyther, which is even appearing in other media (game) besides anime. I know, and understand, that not everyone will have relevant content for a page. But that is my point for this issue. Even because the rule is out of date since the time of the anime of XY. So the question, how does the rules work with Go?Hikaru Wazana (talk) 22:38, 01 March 2020 (UTC)

(resetting indent)A new rule has been made specifically for Go's Pokemon. They have to meet all the requirements noted in the rule. So, Cubone is not notable for now.--ForceFire 06:27, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

How about we make a page "Go's other pokemon." the page is going to get long at this rate. Random Chaos (talk) 22:17, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Is this trivia worthy?

Since Go caught a Darmanitan with Zen Mode, is it worth mentioning that Go is the first of Ash's friends to catch a Psychic-type Pokémon since Misty's Starmie? Or does it not count since Zen Mode is more of a form change, thus not making Darmanitan a Psychic-type 100% of the time? --PKMNAdventurer (talk) 18:41, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

I vote no. Random Chaos (talk) 19:47, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Being second is not notable at all.--Rocket Grunt (Report To Me) 19:50, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
it would be the first time in over 1000 episodes and the first time it happened in an episode. That’s notable.--Pikablu (talk) 20:07, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Go's Pokémon section

I was thinking that maybe it would be better visually and more organizing to put all of Go's Pokémon in the section "Kept at Sakuragi Park", in the ActivePoké Template, and link them with another article "List of Pokémon owned by Go" (except Scyther who already owns its own article). What do you think? I'm showcasing the example below.

Note: I only included a few of his mons to point out the idea. At Sakuragi Institute:

File:Go Caterpie.png
Caterpie
File:Go Metapod.png
Metapod
File:Go Venomoth.png
Venomoth
File:Go Paras Parasect.png
Paras
File:Go Paras Parasect.png
Parasect
File:Go Butterfree.png
Butterfree
File:Go Pinsir.png
Pinsir
File:Go Weedle.png
Weedle