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Happy 2010 folks. Maybe a gift for me for the new year? Don't kill the talk page before Bulbapedia's upcoming FIFTH ANNIVERSARY! TTEchidna

Pokéwalker

Official site and press site says lowercase.--immewnitythemew 04:07, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Well. I guess if we've got agreement... We have English boxart, does it say the lowercase W too? TTEchidna 04:20, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

They all do :p I still say we go for the change haha... Yaminokame 04:27, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Okay. Your job is relinking, then. I'll probably move it sometime soon. TTEchidna 04:39, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Poké Ball

I found the GSC entry for the Ultra Ball. It says "A BALL with a high rate of success.". Since the page is protected, I can't do anything about it, but you can make the edit since you're a sysop. Thanks! Oh, I also found the Great Ball's entry, too. "A BALL with a decent success rate". Just thought I'd add that. :) --Oz ^{(The Wizard at Work!)} 06:28, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Great. Make sure that you don't allcaps stuff, though. If it's allcaps in Gen I-III, chances are, it's meant just to be initial-cap'd. TTEchidna 06:34, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

CAPS in description of Route 110 signage

You changed "TEAM MAGMA" and "TEAM AQUA", taken directly from in-game text, to "Team Magma" and "Team Aqua". Is there some rule that says no caps-locked words even if that's how they are in-game, or did you just assume that they weren't in caps in-game? Looking at it anew, I can understand how it might look ugly; would it perhaps be better if the caps were like "Team Magma" and "Team Aqua"? Tiddlywinks 06:43, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

No. Caps is bad. Gen III and before did that so the words stood out. Do we have it as PIKACHU (Pokémon) or Pikachu (Pokémon)? No small-caps either unless it's a specific style, like the Wonder Cards, it's blah. TTEchidna 06:49, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

New template creation

Hey, could you point me in the right direction? There seems to be a problem with the way some tables in Pokémon Rumble locations are viewed, due to my cheap, throw-away coding. I'd like to make tables that resemble the present/absent tables (ex: here). I don't know how to start and I don't have enough time to learn. (I'm being heckled by Sidnoea right now.) Would you be able to help me create the template, or can you tell me who can? Thanks!! Jazzmoth 21:03, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Templates are easy to make. Usually for a Pokémon list, you start off by making a table that shows how it'll look. You split that into the header, base, and footer: the header is the top of the table, the footer is notes and the end of the table, and the base is each individual row, usually a Pokémon. When put together they become a big table. And usually I take care of them but we've had a few others do so, so check out some of the creators of the templates. TTEchidna 00:14, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Those Apricorn templates

They're so big and so orange that they make my eyes bleed. What about shortening them a bit? Like deleting the "Introduced in Gen II" thing. All Apricorns debuted in Gen. II. It's redundant. At least make those templates less wide, hence less ugly. --Maxim 10:05, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

That's the items template. All items have the "introduced in Gen X" part. Haven't you seen my testing? TTEchidna 10:11, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Still, that should be made smaller. Also, in the case of Pokéballs, it's still redudant as we have them already grouped in section according to the generations they first appeared in. Also, you completely ignored the Gen. II Park Ball. It's not completely the same as Compe Ball (OMG, I can't wait for English version when we'll stop using that unreasoned idiotic "é"). It had different name in both Japanese and English (probably) and was different in design. We can't ignore the fact that something like "Park Ball" existed in Gen II. There's just one problem - there were no item sprites back then (hell, why did they HAVE to replace such an awesome Ball with some useless normal PokeBall with a sticker). --Maxim 10:15, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

The Compé Ball is the Park Ball. Same use, same catch rate, same place... in all technicalities I'd say we ought combine the Exp. All and Exp. Share, since they are the same in Japan. And the Park Ball... um, that wasn't official art we had before, as far as the style appears. And note the note at the bottom, of course. It was known as the Park Ball in Gen II.

As for taking out the gen-intro thing... I can make a million exceptions and it'll still be "redundant" for those who've been with the series since Gen I. For once, I'm actually thinking of the new kids who never had GS, and only have HGSS.

I don't much like the Compé's design, either, you know, but that's how it goes. TTEchidna 10:45, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

I believe that some hidden art for Park Ball DOES exist, since they appear in practically the same design in both Anime and PokeSpe. Also, the art which PokeSho has in his PokeBall article looks pretty official (though, you never know, Pokesho is an amazing fanartman). Of course, we may say that Compe Ball was just renamed (to avoid confusion with Pal Park Ball) and visually overhauled (redesigns happen, see Itemfinder) but the fact that it used to be green and called "Park Ball" should definitely be noted. --Maxim 10:58, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Well, take a look at our thing. We've got Compé and Park Ball art here, too, in the 25-ball art. And my girlfriend basically edited that in. I don't know personally if PokéSho did the edit himself (hey it's doable) but yeah. Plus, hey, it didn't have a sprite in Gen II, so what can you do? ItemFinder will be interesting, unless they call the HGSS one "Dowsing Machine" like the Pokétch App. TTEchidna 11:39, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Of course. Pokesho might just edit it. He's a fanart master, after all. As for Itemfinder, I don't believe that they'll rename it. "Dowsing Machine" exceeds the 12 character limit. And HGSS is built on Platinum's engine so this limit ain't gonna change (and I doubt that it ever will). --Maxim 12:48, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, tradition and all. Maybe they'll CamelCase it as ItemFinder, though. TTEchidna 21:46, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Smoochum

I'm recommending that this user have the "abuse" tag slapped on. The user in question accrued two userspace warnings with the main account, then used a sockpuppet called "Smoochum xx" to try to get around those warnings and garnered two more userspace warnings in the process. Checkuser verifies that "Smoochum xx" is indeed Smoochum's sockpuppet, and hence why I'm combining the number of overall warnings to four and calling for the slap-on of an "abuse" tag as a result. Can this request be done? Thanks. --Shiningpikablu252 19:24, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

got it. was wondering if the user should get a block too, for the "user warning" evasion though... -- MAGNEDETH 19:43, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

The sock for sure should get an infinite. The plain user, eh, a day. First offense is warning. TTEchidna 21:30, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Blaine's gym quiz machines

You know the last question, right? The one that in the English versions asks if TM28 contains Tombstoner? Well, I wanted to see what was the question in the Japanese versions and this is what I got:

So what is the word or expression しねしねこうせん Shineshinekōsen supposed to mean? しねしね results in "rice rice" (?) and こうせん means light beam, but I'm not seeing how it could be translated properly. Pokemon lover 21:27, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

I dunno. TTEchidna 22:00, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Hold on, how did "Tombstoner" come about? As far as I recall, the fake move name was actually "Tombstony", at least in Yellow and Generation III...--Shiningpikablu252 01:13, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

It's Tombstoner. And I'm pretty sure that's in all Gens with Kanto. I can check though... R.A. Hunter Blade 05:22, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

しねしねこうせん - I'm going to guess that しね is supposed to be the informal imperative form of the verb "to die;" ie. "DIE!!!" And that doubling it is supposed to make it sound sillier. So, roughly, "DEATH BEAM!!!" or something, probably meant to be a play off of Hakai Kousen (aka. Hyper Beam), which means "Destruction Beam." In other words... it's a ridiculous fake attack name that is supposed to be easily identified as false, like "Tombstoner." 梅子^❄_❅ 05:49, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

I dunno why I said rice in the first place but anyways, thanks for translating it. ;-) Pokemon lover 14:21, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Are the servers crashing for you too?

Is it just my computer, but about every 15 min. the servers crash? Do you know how to fix this, or am I asking the wrong person.... -The Question

Our tech guy's been on vacation, actually, so he hasn't been able to deal with our heavy traffic issue. Don't worry, all will be fixed rather soon; we're going so far as to have a third server before HGSS is out. TTEchidna 20:36, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Overworld sprites

Are there gender differences? Just asking before it becomes an issue (if it is true). ^ht14 03:53, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

梅子^❄_❅ 03:56, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Only in a couple of those which have in-battle differences. For example, Sneasel doesn't, but Pikachu does. Only 12 Pokémon differ in the overworld. TTEchidna 04:08, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

OK, thanks. So it'd be Hippopotas for instance. What about Buizel and Floatzel (back view)? ^ht14 04:11, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Nope. They're, strangely enough, not among those gendered. TTEchidna 06:46, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Very strange... ^ht14 01:33, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Hippopotas is, in case that wasn't clear. TTEchidna 01:43, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Hey...

I was thinking, when the next generation of spritebox rolls out, do you think we could include clauses for the Kabutops and Aerodactyl fossils? It would probably look better than the random box we have there now.--MisterE13 06:32, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Are those necessary though? I mean, they're fossilized versions, yeah, but they're only in RGBY/FRLG, and really belong just on the Pewter Museum page. TTEchidna 06:45, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Its up to you guys I guess I just really hate what we have now. I also doubt it would be that complicated but whatever.--MisterE13 16:13, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

The current template we have is in need of a workover. I've tried something for it, but that ended up looking terrible, so we're gonna keep trying. TTEchidna 00:13, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

What we have for the fossils that is.--MisterE13 02:46, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Well, come Gen V, we might be getting further stuff. In the lull we're gonna improve Gen III. TTEchidna 03:03, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Border-radius workaround?

As you know well, we use moz-border-radius, despite WebKit and Presto having their respective specifications. I'm also pretty sure that the problems will be solved when border-radius becomes a web standard. However, I think I might discovered a workaround here. I don't understand PHP so I can't say nothing about the subject but is there something that could be applied on our sites? Pokemon lover 21:58, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

That's for the site's CSS. Templates... not so much. It appears to work pretty much the same, but to actually have it work on Safari, Chrome, and Opera, that'd be a hell of a lot of extra code to put in on every instance of -moz-border-radius, let alone for the things that only have one or two corners rounded, such as table cells. And considering there's still nothing for that crapsack of a web browser, IE, I think we can put this on the back burner until there's a way to activate roundycorners in every browser with one codecall, rather than three to activate it in four browsers. A majority of our users use Firefox anyway, and the templates look just fine in IE and other browsers even without the roundy, so don't worry about it. TTEchidna 00:12, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

New Psybeam Pic

I got a pretty cool screenshot of Mew from Pokémon The First Movie. The Psybeam page seems to have some decent pictures, but I think that maybe the Mew (movie 1) page could use a better picture. This is just my opinion, but if the current picture did not have a title above it, I doubt anyone would be able to tell that it was using teleport.