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Talk:Orre

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Better Map

Does anyone have better (bigger) image of Orre from Pokémon XD? --Maxim 19:31, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Arizona Desert

Wikipedia's article on Orre states and cites that Orre is based off of the Arizona Desert.......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orre

That it's based off the area of Japan with Hiroshima does seem more logical to me....Cheesedude 04:20, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Im convinced its based off Arizona. Since last I checked, Hiroshima was not next to a desert. Besides, I seem to recall a Nintendo Power article with an interview with the creator of Colluseum stating it was there, and the name is pretty obvious(phenac/pheonix).--Bandit1108 04:54, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Far as I'm concerned, the town names are after minerals, Phenac seems more off of phenakite than Phoenix, Arizona. After all, the region's name is Orre, which seems to be a play on ore, and we have Agate, Pyrite, and Phenac, all minerals. Gateon Port... probably from Agate (which it is near to) and "eon", the suffix of the Eeveelutions, which can be obtained here due to being able to get one of their evolutionary items here. It could also be from "gate", as it's the gate to the sea and to Citadark Isle. --TTEchidna 12:21, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't want to be so quick to delete all that about how it could be based on Hiroshima. I mean, it's almost all fan speculation anyway. Who's to say that it couldn't have been inspired by both Arizona and Hiroshima post-bomb? I thought it was a very interesting addition to the article. Maybe there should be a section on possible basis for the region with both theories instead of assuming one or neither is correct. --Greengiant 16:37, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

If you want to add something like that, go ahead, but the problem is that the Hiroshima thing is totally speculation from fans while Arizona was specifically mentioned in an interview long ago, when the the first Colosseum came out. It seemed very odd to me that the latter was there while the former was left out. Also, someone else removed the part about Orre being west of Johto/Kanto (I'm sure it's just another assumption because Hiroshima is west of the real-life Kansai/Kantou) for being completely unfounded but left the rest in. The article on the Pokemon world's relation to the real world also mentions the Arizona connection, so it would also be inconsistant to attribute it to Hiroshima here.--AuthorX 11:00, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, well, if that interview was from nintendo power, I'd suggest you take it with a grain of salt. Those guys are ALSO the ones who said that Shigeru Miyamoto said that Ocarina of Time took place right after Link's awakening. Besides, if you look at Orre, it doesn't even Resemble Arizona (while it is mainly a desert, it also has an Ocean jutting out of it and the Island was supposed to be miles away from mainland. Even the Gulf Of California doesn't have anything close to an Island on it's map. my guess is that it's based off of Hiroshima.

Weedle Mchairybug 13:31, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

In the case of Arizona being the basis of Orre, maybe Orre is on a different continent entirely, like comparing to Arizona and Japan. --Mooshykris 02:29, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

I really think Orre is meant to be very separate from the other areas, and based on the West. In the original Japanese versions, it's the only one where the characters and places aren't named primarily in Japanese, and they use pokedollars as currency, rather than the normal yen that the other regions use. Capsule Computer 08:27, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
I don't know, but Rui doesn't sound American (it still sounds a bit asian). And also, not having japanese names, technically, the Violet city teacher wasn't really named in Japanese, either (His name in the Japanese version was Giovanni, which is the english name of the Team Rocket Leader).

Weedle Mchairybug 13:31, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

The names of Orre characters are nothing like American and nothing like Japanese. They are completely pulled out from creators' asses. In both Japanese and English version. --Maxim 16:14, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
I didn't SAY that they were japanese. I just said that the Name Rui sounded Asian. Just because something's asian doesn't mean it must be Japanese.
Weedle Mchairybug 19:34, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
Actually, many of the names sound very much English in the original Japanese version; save for some main characters names like Ryûto (Michael), Mirei (Rui), and Setsuma (Beluh). Names such as Mayor Backley (Es Cade), Leo (Wes), and Logan (Eagun) are evidence of such. However, due to the inclusion of Japanese names along with English names, I would hesitate to say it must be based on Arizona. Also, Arizona doesn't have a coastline. Gateon Port could be on the Gulf of California, and thus in Mexico, however. But Chûgoku has some merit. There is a desert in Chûgoku, the largest in all of Japan. Unfortunately, it is the Tottori Sand Dunes, which is on the other side of Chûgoku from Hiroshima. One could imagine the sands spreading across Chûgoku from Tottori to Hiroshima to become the desert of Orre, but that would mean forgetting about the Chûgoku Mountains, which literally divide the region in half, running east-west, creating a distinct northern region from the southern region. The north is more inhospitable, and has such things as the rugged landscapes of Tottori and Shimane (where Izumo is located). The south is more lush and plain-covered, and has beautiful forests as well. This distinction would lead me, finally to hesitate whether Hiroshima is really the right place to locate Orre, especially considering the report years ago when Colosseum first came out. Still, the blasted landscape after WWII was quite desert-like for a while, so if something major were to happen, in say, 5th or 6th gen when they finally get to mapping Chûgoku into the Pokémon Nation (and thus bridge Johto and Hoenn), something major such as a huge destruction as a result of the game's conflict, destruction on an even more massive scale than the bombing, but similar to it, I could imagine Hiroshima becoming like Orre. However, that is more in the domain of speculation and pushing on fanwank, and I would rather wait for evidence than push ahead that idea. For now, I wouldn't assume any particular location for Orre, until some new evidence is brought forth if and when they release a new title in the Orre Region. Satosuke 05:58, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
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