Talk:Kris (game)

Just a question, but where exactly is "Kris" the official spelling? "Crys" or "Crystal" make more sense to me, considering the names of the other heroes.--Biccy 19:40, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

It's in the list of available names. TTEchidna^G_SDS! 20:01, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Additionally, the back of the US Crystal box says in one area, "New female trainer Kris faces the Unown." If that and the screenshot are not confirmation enough, I don't know what is. --Shiningpikablu252 21:18, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

>>; It's been many a year since I looked at the box, but gotcha.--Biccy 19:44, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Is this worth adding?

Is it worth adding? ~~Takoto - サソデイ 11:21, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Stretched, enlarged GBC overworld sprite? Think not... --Maxim 12:02, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Isn't it darker than usual? ^tc²₆tc₂₆ 12:03, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes, and it's just an overworld sprite. I don't think it's worth adding. --☆AT♂ 12:06, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Ah sorry, I let my brother mess around on my account because he said he wanted to do some editing (but was too lazy to make his own). Sorry for the trouble. ~~Takoto - サソデイ 16:29, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

MERGE TIIIIME

Yes or no. Soul is Kris. Merge it here? TTEchidna 19:28, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Source? - Pokéman 21:58, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Look at bulbanews. If you need a link, top of the news stuff on the main page. --エルレイド 21:59, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

How does that confirm that Soul is Kris? - Pokéman 22:03, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Ask the Echidna. You do realize that he's the Editor-in-Chief, right? --エルレイド 22:05, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, but what does that have to do with this? - Pokéman 22:09, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

No. Don't merge. One thing from Crystal does not mean everything from Crystal. --ケンジのガール 22:21, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Seconded. - Pokéman 22:26, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Let's just say hypothetically that she is Soul, but the game drops the name Kris but keeps Soul. Does that mean we start calling her Soul? --ケンジのガール 22:43, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Pretty much, yea. If there's no concrete evidence relating her to Kris, then she's a completely new character. TheChrisD ^{Rants•Edits} 14:45, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Do we know for sure?

The article's "Trivia" section clearly states that Kris "is not the female choice" in HeartGold and SoulSilver. However, it is not clear whether she and Soul are the same character or not. In addition, all other articles with information pertaining to the subject are in possession of far greater neutrality. I suggest that this text be changed to read "is believed not to be the female choice". I'd do it myself, but it seems that the article has been Protected, and therefore, only an Administrator can make the suggested change. Anyone agree with me? This message brought to you by Glitchipedia, the falsified encyclopedia 03:17, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Should we add?

Since some people don't know about Soul yet, can't there be a link to Soul(game) at the top?--The Bulb's Master 01:06, 16 August 2009 (UTC) Master of Bulbasaur and Turtwig♀

Why? It's at the bottom. TTEchidna 03:45, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, didn't see that! But shouldn't we put like: This is about the female hero of Crystal. If your'e looking for the female hero of HeartGold and SoulSilver, Please click here. --The Bulb's Master is the Master of Bulbasaur, Turtwig, and, most reacently, Chikorita. 16:13, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Can't someone talk!?!--The Bulb's Master is the Master of Bulbasaur, Turtwig♀, and most reacently, Chikorita♂ 13:03, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't see the point in even having a separate article for the HG/SS design. It's the same storyline and they're both the female player character in it, so it makes more sense to put them into a single article regardless of whether they are the same character or not.-Jeff^(talk) 16:46, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Err

I was going to add Kris' backsprite (KrisBack.png) to the article, not realizing the page was protected... could somebody do this for me or should I just wait until after HGSS come out? T_T ZestyCactus 04:55, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Kotone/Soul

This should probably be updated to reflect Soul's real name (Kotone) and how she is definitely a new character/Kris' replacement/etc, I'd do it myself but the page is still protected. :P ZestyCactus 00:18, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

I was just about to add a section about this myself. But seriously, Admin's you need to get on the ball when it comes to Relinking! I would do it myself as well, but; like Zesty said; It's protected. _ShinyPika 03:28, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Confirmation that Soul and Kris are separate chars

I just looked at Serebii and noticed that Soul is present in the preview pics for the next episode in Japan. When that episode airs, we should know for sure whether or not Soul and Kris are the same character, as we have seen Marina (Kris's anime counterpart) in the past. --エルレイド 21:26, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

That's kinda... old news. D: also, her official name according to Pokémon Sunday is actually Kotone, not Soul. :P ZestyCactus 21:59, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Unblock the page

It's not like anything needs to be protected, what with Kotone's revelation and all. --Bulbafan 00:12, 27 September 2009 (UTC) My talk page

The lookalike?

Is it a trainer class, NPC in Pokémon Stadium 2, it needs to be more specific.--Midnight Blue 01:04, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

You're right. Does anyone have a pic of it? By the way MB, you did your sig twice... CuboneKing 01:05, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Oh I did?, I'm sorry, did not mean to. Anyways, can we trace back to whoever wrote it in and get more info? To see if there is a lookalike.--Midnight Blue 01:07, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

It was Zesty. CuboneKing 01:10, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

This is the Stadium 2 girl when you use a Crystal game with Kris selected as the player character. Not very alike other than the hair... vaguely... →Tinā ^♫δ 01:22, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

That looks nothing like Kris. I'm removing the trivia. CuboneKing 01:24, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

The only place I saw Kris's picture (i.e. an actual Kris picture) in Stadium 2 was in the credits against the rival. --Shiningpikablu252 03:08, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Can you provide a screen shot?--Midnight Blue 03:39, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

In retrospect she's more of a female Red lookalike than a Kris lookalike, but she still only appears if you're playing as Kris... so I reworded it as more of a side note. ZestyCactus 05:10, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

I'd say that she's more similar to Kotone. But it's just me. But she's as much Kris's "counterpart" as the player boy is both Red's and Gold's counterpart. Why don't we have them mentioned on their respective pages? However, the thing on her icon appearing in Stadium 2 credits is TOTALLY worth noting. I'll try to beat Silver and get the screenshot of credits. --Maxim 18:14, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Kris in Pokemon Stadium 2

File:Kris PS2.png This is the only thing I can do, if it's not good enough, then, is there a way to get it from the game? It's in the credits just to add.--Midnight Blue 02:08, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Do you have a way of taking screenshots? CuboneKing 02:03, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Well, i took that from my computer from a youtube video, and I cropped it just to show that she appears in the game. But, I have no other way to get a pic of her.--Midnight Blue 02:07, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

I can hopefully get a better screenshot, I just need to know where exactly in the game that image appears. Does it appear anywhere else in the game besides the credits? —♥ Jello 02:09, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure, i was watching the ending and just noticed her. If you can get a better pic, it would be nice. I might look at the ending again to see if there anything else useful.--Midnight Blue 02:11, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Well, I wouldn't recommend capturing off a Youtube video, but a Youtube video does make a good reference for time code references. Try this video around the 3:48 mark; bottom right of the battle scene, Kris's icon appears in her original Crystal incarnation (for obvious reasons; odds are her HeartGold and SoulSilver redesign probably wasn't even on the drawing board yet), with the opposite corner having the Generation II rival. It's the second-to-last such scene played in the credits (the last such scene, the one after Kris's appearance, has an interesting anime allusion involving Blue and Red). --Shiningpikablu252 02:27, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Kris appears there because... Stadium 2 was Generation II. Duh? That's like saying that Ash in his Kanto/Orange/Johto clothes in an old episode is because they hadn't thought of the Hoenn or Sinnoh outfits yet. It's... because that's what he wore. TTEchidna 02:32, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Merger tiems

So Crystal is dressed in Lyra's outfit in the HGSS chapter, just like how Green was dressed as Leaf. Like the RGB girl who never made it in is Leaf, the GSC girl who never made it in until Crystal is Lyra. Lyra is Kris, and Ethan is Gold. Maxim, you can feel free to blow a gasket now, but the fact that she has two anime counterparts means nothing, because so does Red. TTEchidna 06:14, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

There is one difference here, there is early RGB game art that features Green, which proves that she was indeed a planned character in the RGB story. No such hints exist for Kris as far as I know (?), and since the games are the ultimate canon in the franchise, it would be more assuring to have concrete evidence from the game canon that Lyra is Kris. This could be a case like Adventure's confirmation that Giovanni was Silver's father, but as I recall, we didn't take that as 100% confirmed canon until we got confirmation via HGSS. Trainer-c 06:36, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

I don't see why it would be impossible for them to be separate characters in the games, yet the same character in Adventures on the basis that the artists are lazy. Interested persons may also wish to see Talk: Lyra (game). —darklordtrom 06:50, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

is it just mere stupidity or a matter of unacceptability that people here cannot face the fact that lyra is indeed kris reasons:

1) lyra is a vast design of kris which infact shown on how the manga artist of adventures doesn't use a color blue hair for kris but brown. 2) kris is indeed a beta design for lyra because during that time the color scheme for lyra's hair was not available for gameboy color. 3) how the f*** told you that this character's name is kris is it just fan name like how ethan was named gold before he was officially named. 4) look at her clothes does it clearly resembles the one lyra was wearing even the hair style they just add a ribbon on her hat you didn't recognize her. 5) and lastly she could have two anime counterpart like how ash and ritchie is based on red.