Talk:Transform (move): Difference between revisions

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If a Ditto/Mew Transformed into a Smeargle, then tried to use Sketch, would it fail? And, if not, would the Sketched move stay on the Ditto/Mew that transformed? It sounds like it wouldn't work but it would be awesome to get moves other than Transform on a Ditto. --[[User:Alex S.|Alex S.]] 04:08, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
If a Ditto/Mew Transformed into a Smeargle, then tried to use Sketch, would it fail? And, if not, would the Sketched move stay on the Ditto/Mew that transformed? It sounds like it wouldn't work but it would be awesome to get moves other than Transform on a Ditto. --[[User:Alex S.|Alex S.]] 04:08, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
== Shiny Status in 1st Generation and STAB in All Generations ==
First, I have tried the glitch where you force a ditto to become shiny. Import a shiny pokémon from 2nd generation to a 1st generation game and teach it Mimic. Then go back to the 2nd Gen. game and have the move deleter remove all moves except Mimic. Return the pokémon to the 1st Gen. game. Then find a wild ditto and use Mimic to copy Transform. That ditto will become a shiny version of the pokémon it is copying, although it will not appear shiny in the Rd/Bl/Yl game. I believe it is because the wild ditto copies the stats of the opposing pokémon, therefore it copies the IVs which the shiny status in the first two generations were based on. The shiny status (and therefore probably the stats) are made permanent by repeating the Transform attacks between the two pokémon two or three times. I think that the limitations of the counters erases the ditto’s original stats so when it reverts to a ditto the original stats are replaced by the copied stats. When the ditto is captured and imported to a second generation game, it is shown to be shiny. I do not know if this would occur with any other pokémon in a trainer battle or not. Only ditto appears in the wild in the 1st generation. Unless you use the Route 8 trick to produce a level 7 mew, but then that mew will not have Transform.
Also, I have wondered why this trick would not have worked in Go/Si/Cr. It seems to me as long as you sent your shiny pokémon back to learn Mimic, it should work. This thought only occured to me today, so I have not had time to experiment. Maybe someone else knows already?
Second, I have not been able to find this next question addressed any where so far. When a pokémon uses Transform to change into a pokémon of a different type(s), does the pokémon retain the STAB for its original type or does it get STAB for the new type? Does this vary from generation to generation?
[[User:White Phoenix|White Phoenix]] 00:55, 21 May 2009 (UTC)