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== Trivia ==

Isn't it a bit early to jump the gun about the Misty comment? Not only does this not air for essentially a month, I don't believe even a description has been leaked. There's no confirmation that not only will the Togepi NOT be Misty's, but there's no confirmation that Misty's Togetic won't appear. I assume this would be similar to when you see a pokemon evolve clearly in the preview for the next episode (Ash's Staravia), but you can't add it til the episode airs, shouldn't it be removed until there's concrete evidence Misty/her Togetic is NOT in the episode? (I'm well aware the chances are pretty much 0%, but at the same time, there's still a slim chance until something is sourced, as it's a month away.) EDIT: And to explain: For all we know, Togetic calls Misty to his world, and she ends up popping out with Ash + Gang, where she catches another Togepi, in similar fashion to how she caught Psyduck. Just explaining a plausible situation that could disprove the comment. Again, I'm WELL AWARE this isn't hers, but the comment shouldn't be there, I'd think... [[User:Myzou|Myzou]] 03:05, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
:Could well have a flashback, too. Comment hidden until aired. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 03:21, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
::Can we try and remove the whole "Fantasy" part? For all we know, that could be the actual Giovanni that appears in that episode (either that, or an android made in his image that's not in a fantasy). Going by the preview hinting that JJM just made a new base in Sinnoh for TR, it could actually be the real Giovanni, for all we know. Basically, can we remove the whole "Fantasy" issue until AFTER the episode has aired?) [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 01:08, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
:::It can't be real as you know that meowth always says that they are going to be rich if they catch pikachu or any other pokemon and then his fantasy begins. So i think this time it is the same fantasy nothing real. ––<span style="color:#00DD00">♫♪</span>[[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#FF7327;">'''Ady'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#FF7327;">'''niz'''</span>]]<span style="color:#00DD00">♪♫</span> 03:22, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
:::It is a fantasy. I watched the actual preview and there's no way that he makes an actual appearance. At least, not according to the preview. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 05:01, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
::::I was saying the same thing. --<span style="color:#00DD00">♫♪</span>[[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#FF7327;">'''Ady'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#FF7327;">'''niz'''</span>]]<span style="color:#00DD00">♪♫</span> 05:33, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::I discussed this with the people on the thread, and I recall them saying that this creepy Chibi Giovanni Robot was placing his hand on Meowth, and it apparantly burned him. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 11:15, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::EDIT: Also, I wasn't even the one who placed it in there. In fact, I was responding AGAINST his being a fantasy. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 11:18, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::This is the first episode in which Togepi appears as a species that does not feature Misty's-> this information is wrong! What about AG044 and AG045? There are multiple Togepis that are not Misty´s! [[User:Brillux|Brillux]] 19:15 10 September 2009 (UTC)

:::::::Yeah, but in those cases, Misty's Togepi also appeared.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 19:23, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::I meant this was the first episode with a Togepi NOT to feature Misty's. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 20:29, 10 September 2009 (UTC)


==Rayquaza Debut?==

Rayquaza was in an episode with the Mismagius nightmare. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 16:57, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
:That Rayquaza wasn't real, though. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 18:49, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
And ...??
Several legendary Pokemon and characters appeared in the anime through imagination. Mew is an example, Professor Birch is another ...[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] 20:49, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, but that Rayquaza was not a Rayquaza, it was a Mismagius. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 02:19, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
What does not change the fact represented was a Rayquaza in the episode, the Mew that appeared in DP092 appeared in a fantasy boss, and was credited in the Bulbapedia here as the first appearance of it.
Based on this logic, Mew never appeared in the anime and it should be removed as well as the mention of the Sinnoh Elite 4 in the anime Lucian  when talking about the team ...[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] 21:19, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
::The fact is, on the page for that episode with the mismagius, it says this

===TV Episode Debut===
[[|Rayquaza (Pokemon)|Rayquaza]]


Ok, so lets remove trivia!!! [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 12:15, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
:I think it's still being disputed. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 13:20, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

==Notable?==
I think I know the answer, but am I the only one who thinks the Togepi in this episode is notable for its own article? Yes, it only appeared in this episode, but it acted as the character of the day for it as well and, as it says on the Notability Requirements page, that, in a rare instance, a page for a Pokémon may be made if they acted as the COD, which it did and its not like it had no personality, it was full of it. What do you guys think?--[[User:Skystar|Skystar]] 20:25, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Sure, why not. It definetly seems notable. [[User:Sudowooper|Sudowooper]] 01:41, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
:I know this is an ancient discussion, but I'd just like to register my astonishment at the fact that nothing about this has been done yet.  I personally agree completely with the idea of a page for this Togepi.  Effectively, she was the CotD of this episode, and had a heck of a lot more personality than some other CotDs.  In fact, I'll make this page myself right now.  <small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' </small> 01:45, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

== Trivia? ==

Worth noting that in this episode [http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/5585/vlc00001g.png James strikes a pose] that looks to be copying one made famous by [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1680&bih=886&q=gendo+pose a certain other anime character]?  Between the pose, the context, and his tone of voice it looks like it probably IS meant to be referencing/parodying Gendo. --[[User:ACDragonMaster|ACDragonMaster]] ([[User talk:ACDragonMaster|talk]]) 02:29, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

==Trivia (again)==

"The Togepi from this episode is the first Pokémon seen acting in an evil manner on her own record rather than following the orders of an evil trainer. This will later be seen in the XY series with a evil Malamar." What about the Spiritomb in DP056? [[User:AkaShika|AkaShika]] ([[User talk:AkaShika|talk]]) 00:33, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
:I was just about to ask about this (since I'm not allowed to edit trivia for a while). [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 05:23, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

== Meowth's and Croagunk's gender's ==

One trivia point states "Meowth and Croagunk had been already confirmed to be male earlier." When did this occur for them. I know with Croagunk there was something about him in a tux and Crissy in a dress but that was before this site was stricter about what confirms a gender. Should this point be changed to just say that they were confirmed in this episode?[[User:Ratchet and Clank 1995|Ratchet and Clank 1995]] ([[User talk:Ratchet and Clank 1995|talk]]) 10:34, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
:I'm having a difficult time finding that particular occurrence as well. Their articles also cite this particular episode as their "confirmation". Thinking if no one can find the prior instance, the point should be edited. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]]''''' 17:40, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
::As I know of Meowth, he had his relationship with Meowzie in ''[[EP070|Go West Young Meowth]]''. [[User:MH|MH]] ([[User talk:MH|talk]]) 21:24, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
:::Was Meowth stated to be male in the original Japanese version? 100% without a doubt. If so that could be the episode in which Meowth was first confirmed.[[User:Ratchet and Clank 1995|Ratchet and Clank 1995]] ([[User talk:Ratchet and Clank 1995|talk]]) 12:37, 17 December 2016 (UTC)