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Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:58, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:58, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
== Legendary Pokémon ==
To go through your points in detail, since I'm not limited by an edit summary length:
* ''Some can be found in different regions'': This is not evidence in favor of one way or the other. If these are different individuals, they may exist in separate places; if they are the same individual, it's easily plausible that they may have traveled.
* ''Some are referred to with non-unique pronouns'': Can you please point me to a specific instance? I can't recall a time this has happened outside the Mystery Dungeon series, which is independent of the [[core series]] (which is, to my understanding, what we're really talking about here). Some sources may say ''they'' (though I can't find any from a quick search), but please note that this may be the {{wp:singular they}}.
* ''Can be shiny/have different IVs'': Pure game mechanics, thus not valid proof. (See also: the contradiction between Pokédex entries saying Escavalier is fast and its actual Speed stat being abysmal. My point is, you can talk about lore or you can talk about game mechanics, but you can't use one as proof for the other.)
* ''Pokédex says some can breed'': Latias' Emerald entry is the only one I can find that directly states anything about any Legendary species being either unique or non-unique. (In this case, it says Latias group together in herds of several members.) I can't find any reference to breeding in a Legendary's Pokédex entries, though I didn't check Mythicals. In any case, the vast majority of Legendaries, especially in early generations, have entries that seem to strongly imply they are, in fact, unique.
My reasoning for insisting on the sentence being in the anime section was because I thought there was no proof one way or the other in the games, so claiming ANYthing would be speculation. Now that I've found that, I'll rephrase it to fit the evidence. Please revise it ''with a specifically cited source'' if you find more canonical instances one way or the other, but otherwise, please do not make any new generalizations. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:45, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

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Legendary Pokémon

Stop adding lines to Legendary Pokémon saying that there are multiples of species. Nothing on the page says anything to the effect of Legendary Pokémon being the only members of their species. And as the above message says, use "Edit this page" at the top of the page instead of editing several sections. glikglak 18:12, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

This goes for species pages as well. The anime sections already denote that individuals are different. Stop adding counts of them. glikglak 23:51, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Legendary Pokémon anime vs games

The back and forth with pretty much that one bit of the Legendary Pokémon page has gone on for quite long enough now. Let's please move the issue to a talk page. Even if someone else makes another change to that info, just let it be. Talk about it instead.

Thanks. Tiddlywinks (talk) 17:58, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Legendary Pokémon

To go through your points in detail, since I'm not limited by an edit summary length:

  • Some can be found in different regions: This is not evidence in favor of one way or the other. If these are different individuals, they may exist in separate places; if they are the same individual, it's easily plausible that they may have traveled.
  • Some are referred to with non-unique pronouns: Can you please point me to a specific instance? I can't recall a time this has happened outside the Mystery Dungeon series, which is independent of the core series (which is, to my understanding, what we're really talking about here). Some sources may say they (though I can't find any from a quick search), but please note that this may be the {{wp:singular they}}.
  • Can be shiny/have different IVs: Pure game mechanics, thus not valid proof. (See also: the contradiction between Pokédex entries saying Escavalier is fast and its actual Speed stat being abysmal. My point is, you can talk about lore or you can talk about game mechanics, but you can't use one as proof for the other.)
  • Pokédex says some can breed: Latias' Emerald entry is the only one I can find that directly states anything about any Legendary species being either unique or non-unique. (In this case, it says Latias group together in herds of several members.) I can't find any reference to breeding in a Legendary's Pokédex entries, though I didn't check Mythicals. In any case, the vast majority of Legendaries, especially in early generations, have entries that seem to strongly imply they are, in fact, unique.

My reasoning for insisting on the sentence being in the anime section was because I thought there was no proof one way or the other in the games, so claiming ANYthing would be speculation. Now that I've found that, I'll rephrase it to fit the evidence. Please revise it with a specifically cited source if you find more canonical instances one way or the other, but otherwise, please do not make any new generalizations. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 19:45, 10 July 2016 (UTC)