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| {{User:Dennou Zenshi/talk|User talk:Dennou Zenshi}}
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| == Trouble with [[Hidden Grotto]] page ==
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| {{u|Lady Ariel}} is [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Hidden_Grotto&diff=2049933&oldid=2049908 showing] herself [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Hidden_Grotto&diff=2050166&oldid=2049989 determined] to undo my fixes for the roundy bits of the table in the [[Hidden Grotto#Items in each Hidden Grotto|Items in each Hidden Grotto]] section on the [[Hidden Grotto]] page. (I also forgot that other tables on that page need the same fixes, but I'd expect to encounter the same resistance if I try to fix those right now.) Without the changes I made, the roundy templates ([[Template:roundytl]], etc.) end up having ''no effect'' whatsoever on the table; you can take out those templates/styles and the table looks exactly the same. In order for them to work, the row cannot have a background color style, and the cells must each have it instead. If you look carefully at the tables in the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Hidden_Grotto&oldid=2050166#Items_in_each_Hidden_Grotto before] and [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Hidden_Grotto&oldid=2049989#Items_in_each_Hidden_Grotto after] revisions, you can see that the corners are actually round in the before version with my edits.
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| Can you impress on Lady Ariel that she has no call to undo those fixes of mine? ...Or am I somehow not as right as I think? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:20, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
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| :Looks like you're right there. Your version is visually the correct one, and it's not like the extra ~250 bytes cause some issues. So I think you can add it back. If Ariel still disagrees, she should take part in the discussion.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 17:39, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
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| ::The corners are identical in both versions (using Safari and Chrome). It is possible to have the background color set for the entire row and have rounded corners for individual cells. In addition I changed the color scheme of the tables. The actual edit I just did is [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Hidden_Grotto&oldid=2050253 here], which makes the table borders less blocky (similar background and border colors in the old versions) and removes unnecessary coding. Also the way I re-coded those few cells is how a majority of tables are coded on Bulbapedia. Should I take pictures of the corners of the cells and provide them or should it be reverted to my recent edit? '''[[User:Lady Ariel|<span style="color:magenta">Lady</span>]] [[User talk:Lady Ariel|<span style="color:orange">Ariel</span>]]''' 19:26, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
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| :::Looking at your revision in Chromium, I now see why you've been undoing my changes. The problem is, in Firefox, my changes actually ''do'' change the way the tables display.
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| :::As I mentioned when I reverted it, you're entirely welcome to redo any of the changes that don't affect the roundy fixes (as above: each cell in a roundy row has to have its own background color, and the row cannot have a background color); I just didn't have the patience to sort out your new changes from the roundy stuff myself, or redo the roundy stuff. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:38, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
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| ::::It is like to the colspan issue with tables, which is caused when a table has a number set for colspan that is greater than the number of columns some browsers display a gap and others don't. I will go ahead and change the tables then (leaving the roundy now that we know it is a browser issue). However, finding the countless number of tables that use the coding I used on the Hidden Grotto page won't be easy. '''[[User:Lady Ariel|<span style="color:magenta">Lady</span>]] [[User talk:Lady Ariel|<span style="color:orange">Ariel</span>]]''' 19:55, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
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| :::::If you mean finding those "countless numbers of tables" to fix the roundy stuff, I don't expect to or even intend to try. I just fix whatever I happen to notice (and manage to care about that moment). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:10, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
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| ::::::Having a "countless{{tt|*|everything on the wiki is countable}}" number of things to fix isn't supposed to be a deterrent from completing a task that need to be finished. It is ''more'' a reason to change something you see is wrong when you see it, because otherwise, it may not be found again for a long while. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|<sup style="color:#00008B;">'''Maverick'''</sup>]][[User talk:Maverick Nate|<sub style="color:#00008B;">'''Nate'''</sub>]]'' 21:06, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
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| == Page without category ==
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| Since a user has created a page about roller-shake tricks, will you either add a category or delete the page? [[User:Cinday123|<span style="color:pink">Cinday123</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Cinday123|<span style="color:lightblue">Talk</span>]])''</small> 02:05, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
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