Talk:Tier/Archive 1
Does this even belong? I mean, sure, it's a good idea to have it, but... eh, I dunno. Either way, in the current state, the article is pretty crappy. --TTEchidna 03:01, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
Are you sure about this?
As far as I can tell, by watching YouTube videos of Wi-Fi PBR battles, there are not this many tiers, and some Pokémon seem to be placed wrong. I've watched hundreds of battles, and not once have I seen an Aggron or Victreebel, both of which are listed as moderately used. On the other hand, I've seen lots of Pidgeot and Pachirisu, which are both in the never-used category according to this page. Who determined this list, and how did they determine it? Zurqoxn 01:51, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
- I believe it was based off some list posted at some website. I don't know which one. But at any rate, there are three things to consider. One, the rate at which things are used are not equal to how high something is on the tier list. Two, opinions of what goes into what tier vary. For instance, Smogon generally agrees Manaphy is uber tier. Third, technically, it is too early in the competitive battling scene to make a proper, full, tier list. In fact, for that reason alone, I believe this article should be deleted or at least changed to descriptions of each tier only until that time comes. System Error 06:22, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
- The site was probably Smogon, if you're wondering. Tiers are based mostly off of base stats, types and move pools for each Pokémon. For example, Skarmory is placed in Over Used because of its ability to take a hit and stay standing, due to high Defense and the Steel/Flying types, and its varied move pool. Also, I've never really seen a moderately used tier before, but it makes sense, especially after the changes to game play Diamond and Pearl have made. As a final note, I have also noticed that tiers change rapidly, based on current trends, play styles, and new discoveries. To make the article more accurate and appropriate, we could add a section on controversies, noting such debates as whether Manaphy, Celebi or Tyranitar qualify as Uber or not, and which Pokémon seem to hover between Overused and Borderline. -DarkMazer 00:26, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
- Also in the recent rush of Trick-Disable pokemon, pokemon such as Kecleon and Mr. Mime have gained a significant boost. I would say MU is fitting for these pokemon. And Sceptile could easily be BL since Worry Seed on Slaking was discovered. These two examples show how in the time between the creation of this list, and now, the metagame has already changed. Also from my personal standpoint, I have seen hundreds of Castforms being used efficiently
User: KarpiFloodcheck 11:55 26 August 2007
Tropius is NU?
Does that mean I've used an NU Pokémon to beat the Elite Four in Emerald? 
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09:53, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
Dewgong!
Dewgong shouldn't be NU either. I used it in the Battle Tower to beat a Dragonite and a Garchomp in one move each, and they're both OU. File:Ani164MS.gifShiny?! 18:00, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Protected page, please
Any smhuck(no offense) can edit this and say their pokemon is uber, etc. Discussion like this should be relegated to the forums, where such discussion does not interfere. Somethign along the lines of the smashboard forums, that relegate smash characters, (periodically updated here by an admin) would work nicely imo.Dark0805 14:03, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Delete It
There is no official tier list. Many people/websites have their own tier lists. For example, some people say that Wynaut is Uber, while some say that it is BL. What is up with that? Obviously, the Tier List has no true content. May we delete it?
- Hold you're horses, Cowboy! Before putting a Delete tag on it, ask other users about what they think. This is like the Bulbapedia:The Great Bulbapedia Turkey Shoot. Many people think that it should be delete, yet some do not. File:Ani234MS.gifMERRY File:Ani385MS.gif CHRISTMASFile:Ani225MS.gif 17:40, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
- I kinda think that we should delete it. After all, this is one of the things that people could put their own shit in it (Along with the Great Turkey Shoot. That page is a steaming pile of crap now, thanks to people overreacting to vandals. :/) and.. yeah. Although, if many people think that we should keep it, protect it instead from either new members or only admins. User:TinaTheKirlia/Sig 17:44, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
- I'm for deleting it too, it's a unofficial fan list that may have too many errors in it. Plus there is no official list since it was fan-made.File:Ani386NMS.gifPokeFile:Ani386AMS.gifmaniacFile:Ani386DMS.gif102File:Ani386SMS.gif 17:47, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
- I kinda think that we should delete it. After all, this is one of the things that people could put their own shit in it (Along with the Great Turkey Shoot. That page is a steaming pile of crap now, thanks to people overreacting to vandals. :/) and.. yeah. Although, if many people think that we should keep it, protect it instead from either new members or only admins. User:TinaTheKirlia/Sig 17:44, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
- Lol. I could care less for both this page and the Turkey Shoot. File:Ani234MS.gifMERRY File:Ani385MS.gif CHRISTMASFile:Ani225MS.gif 17:48, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
- Tiers are just a bunch of bullsh*t anyway. I've had my Glaceon kick a Garchomp's a$$ countless times, and they say that Glaceon is UU/BL? Pssshh. User:TinaTheKirlia/Sig 17:50, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
- Hey, mine did too! User:Optimus35/sig 04:07, 27 December 2007 (UTC) XD
