Talk:Lysandre

Quotes

We need to check both games, since they differ in few places (for example, in X he threatens player and his rivals with eternal life, while in Y he just says something about the weapon's power.) Uploader (talk) 11:22, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

I take quotes from X. We need someone with Y. Ashes (talk) 14:36, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Third Battle Pokemon

Since the Gyarados is not Mega Evolved upon entering battle, shouldn't it still be listed as just a Gyarados, but one that's holding the Gyaradosite? My question is based off of the page of Diantha, as her Champion Pokemon includes her Gardevoir, which is listed in its normal form as holding Gardevoirite, instead of the way the third battle for Lysandre is listed, with his Gyarados in its Mega Evolved form, with the type and ability change included.

So, if someone could just let me know if that should be changed, or change it themselves, that would be wonderful. Arceus42 (talk) 00:58, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

I would argue that since NPCs seem to always Mega Evolve their Pokemon if they can, I would say list the Mega Evolution. --Zdude0127 (talk) 07:47, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

New trivia?

Since Gyarados can't learn Iron Head or Outrage in Gen VI due to the lack of a move tutor, wouldn't it be notable to point out that it's moveset can't be obtained by the player outside of PokeBank? I would add it, but I feel it would be reverted. --Zdude0127 (talk) 07:38, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Name/Meaning

The name Lysandre has nothing to do with a fleur-de-lis.; it's simply the French form of the name Lysander, which has connotations involving freedom and liberation of mankind. Lysandros (Λυσανδρος)—the Greek form and original name—means "the release of a man," i.e. "Liberator". There was an actual man with this name, a Spartan admiral who ended a great war. I don't want to give spoilers here, but those who know Lysandre's plan will know why this name fits the character so well. In fact, this is a rare case where I feel that the English name is far more fitting than the Japanese name. More information can be found at Behind the Name. I'll be updating the page now. Kraslev (talk) 22:06, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

While the actual etymology of the name is unrelated to fleur-de-lis, the name origin is also used to note why the name was chosen. Considering how most of the NPC in XY are named after plants, lys (lily) is also a likely origin. However, I won't deny that the name can have multiple origins and that section was rather outdated. --超龍_「Chao」 04:08, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

I'll give you that the lis or lys portion of all names is likely a nod to the fleur-de-lis, but only to the extent that they were looking for names that contained <lis> or <lys>. Like you said, the etymology has nothing to do with lilies or the fleur-de-lis. I've made another update. If you're going to reformat my contribution again, please let me know why. You made a lot of wording changes that made the sentences more difficult to understand. Kraslev (talk) 18:28, 15 December 2013 (UTC)