Talk:Green (game)

Split

Why was she split from the Leaf page? They're basically the same character. Green's outfit still references the FRLG one, includes the same bag and does the exact same posing as she did in FRLG at the start of a battle. If we allow this, then Gold should absolutely be split from Ethan as well. --Johto (talk) 01:28, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

I don't really feel like getting back into this debate, but yeah, I agree. It seems (and has always seemed) like we're applying different rules to different pages.

If anything this whole thing speaks volumes about how Pokemon handles... things, for lack of a better term. I'm reminded of the whole Ultra Beasts/Legendaries debate. If the Pokemon Company doesn't run on common sense then it's hard for us to, as much as I desperately wish we could.

If I had the mental energy to push for the pages to be remerged I absolutely would. But I feel like it's kind of a futile effort. I highly doubt anyone will listen. In my experience it has been hard for us normal folk to make any changes happen. I'm just going to passively voice my support for a merge, and (probably) leave it at that. Apologies for the apathy. --celadonk (talk) 02:09, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

I agree they are basically the same character. As far as I know, the pages were split mainly because the name "Leaf" has now been used in Pokémon Masters. This is the first time the name "Leaf" is used in an official game. Before Masters, the name "Leaf" was just a name commonly used by fans. That name appeared in the hidden game data, but so did "Ninten" for Red in previous games, and in my experience no one seriously calls Red "Ninten". "Leaf" was also one names suggested for both FRLG players (each player had 21 name suggestions, depending on the language), and the name "Leaf" was used in a couple of official figures from 2019 that predate her appearance in Masters.

I guess if the Generation II version of Gold appear in Masters with the name "Gold", then Gold would be split from Ethan as well. The name "Gold" has never been used for the game character in any official media, as far as I know. "Gold" is still just a fan name for that game character. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 02:32, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

I also must say that this shadow split is kind of a sham move. At least Kris and Lyra both appear together in Pokémon Masters, which puts the final nail in that debate's coffin; in this case, only Leaf appears in the game while having an obvious Let's Go, Eevee! reference as her Pokémon, so if anything, the implied takeaway is that Green is indeed merely a different incarnation of the same character (as they clearly share the same root with the unused Generation I design). Mind, this could always change in the future, but there is no sign in current datamines and the article should reflect present information, which the merged version was already doing adequately. The Green/Leaf discussion is far from over, but any further splits, like Gold and Ethan, would just be pedantic. LeafyGreens (talk) 17:08, 24 February 2020 (UTC)