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What, no mention of Lance's Gamesharky tendencies? He's had two Pokémon with moves they couldn't actually learn--the Dragonite with Barrier (which it has ''never'' been able to learn) in Red/Blue and the Aerodactyl with Rock Slide (which it couldn't learn at the time) in Gold/Silver. [[User:Zdododododo|Zdododododo]] 02:53, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
:I'll put that in trivia. And, I think pretty much every Pokémon he owns knows Hyper Beam. That's trivia too. [[User:Angerman|Angerman]] 23:29, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
::Didn't someone once say that Lance's Dragonite had 5 attacks in Red and Blue? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] 21:35, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
::Probably. However, I'm suprised nobody mentioned his three underlevelled Dragonites in G/S/C. - [[User:Nebula|Nebula]] 19:31, 20 November 2007 (GMT)

:::We didn't mention that because there are quite a few (I CAN'T NAME THEM D8) underleveled things.. however, since Lance is rather AR-heavy, it's worth a mention ;) [[User:TinaTheKirlia|<span style="color:#E75480;">T</span><span style="color:#FF69B4;">i</span><span style="color:#F6ADC6;">n</span><span style="color:#FFC0CB;">a</span>]]<sup>[[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|<span style="color:#FFC0CB;">☆</span>]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|<span style="color:#F6ADC6;">♥</span>]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|<span style="color:#FF69B4;">♫</span>]]<span class="plainlinks">[http://freewebs.com/thepixelcafe <span style="color:#FF7BBD;">δ</span>]</span></sup> 19:38, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

== Red/Blue Dragonite ==

I've heard that Lance's Dragonair/Dragonite in Red/Blue will not use Slam or Hyper Beam if you send out a Grass- or Poison-type Pokémon against him. It's partially mentioned [http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/gameboy/file/367023/37094 here]. I've unintentionally tested this myself during a normal playthrough, where I had only a Level 40 Weezing against Lance's Dragonite. The battle took forever, but Dragonite used only Agility and Barrier against Weezing. Could this be added to the article? Thanks. [[User:Ultraflame|Ultraflame]] 19:35, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

It's a 'bug' on Red/Blue's code. AI-controlled Pokémon will use moves of super-effective types until the PP is over. Since Agility and Barrier are Psychic-type moves and Poison-type Pokémon are weak to Psychic moves, the AI will think that Agility and Barrier are damage-dealing moves and will spam them. [[User:Mennace|Mennace]] 04:27, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

== Im Anime ==

er hat doch nur das rote Garados und das normale Garados bekommt man doch im Anime nie zu Gesicht.--[[User:Fahrenheit|Fahrenheit]] 19:48, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:Look, I realize you're German, but we're not going to do all the work of communication for you. So English please? (And to other editors, don't tell me "babelfish" because in all honesty the second part of Fahrenheit's comment is reduced to nonsense.)--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 22:50, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

in the anime i saw only the red one and not the normal one . i ask you in which episode he has the normal one?--[[User:Fahrenheit|Fahrenheit]] 08:14, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Er hat eine normale Garados in [[The Legend of Thunder]] auf dem Foto. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 08:29, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

== Dragonite ==

shouldn't there be a page for his Dragonite.? After all it has appeared for most of the episode, helped {{Ash}} and co., and also battled the Red gyrados?? not to mention it's his main battler. 
[[User:RovingTrainer|RovingTrainer]]

==Not a Gym Leader?==
Lance is in the Gym leader category, but on his edit page there is no place to remove the Gym Leader Category tag, so I couldn't remove it. Lance is not a gym leader, so I'm not sure why he's been put in that category. [[User:Jacobe|Jacobe]] 20:03, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
:I fixed it. It was in '''the template'''. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User Talk:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">512</span>]]''' 20:10, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

== Clair's and Lance's names ==

Could it be possible that Clair's and Lance's are related to the word clairvoyance? If you take the L out of Lance, the two have their names in clairvoyance. I know clairvoyance would be more related to psychic than dragon, but dragons are mystical creatures and clairvoyance is a mystical ability.

I'm waiting for a third Dragon trainer called Voy (or something like that) to show up if this is true.

== Moving it ==

We're not gonna. {{OBP|Lance|Team Rocket}} will obviously get a name change in English like Charon did. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 22:15, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

== Salamence (HG/SS Team) ==

His Salamence is holding a Lum Berry. I'd add it to the page, but pretty much all of the HG/SS-related pages are locked right now, so... {{unsigned|Leo058}}
:Hmm. We'll reduce protection on that then. Remember to sign your comments, btw. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 20:15, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

==Make a tag battle template==

If you'd look at this:

{{Party
|color={{steel color}}
|headcolor={{steel color light}}
|bordercolor={{steel color dark}}
|sprite=E Steven Back.png
|prize=N/A
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Steven
|game=E
|location=Mossdeep City
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=227
|pokemon=Skarmory
|gender=male
|level=43
|type1=Steel
|type2=Flying
|ability=Keen Eye
|move1=Toxic
|move1type=Poison
|move2=Protect
|move2type=Normal
|move3=Steel Wing
|move3type=Steel
|move4=Aerial Ace
|move4type=Flying}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=375
|pokemon=Metang
|level=42
|type1=Steel
|type2=Psychic
|ability=Clear Body
|move1=Psychic
|move1type=Psychic
|move2=Metal Claw
|move2type=Steel
|move3=Reflect
|move3type=Psychic
|move4=Light Screen
|move4type=Psychic}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=306
|pokemon=Aggron
|gender=male
|level=44
|type1=Steel
|type2=Rock
|ability=Sturdy
|move1=Protect
|move1type=Normal
|move2=Thunder
|move2type=Electric
|move3=SolarBeam
|move3type=Grass
|move4=Dragon Claw
|move4type=Dragon}}
}}

Why is his Dragonite a single Pokémon? Why not make it like Steven's? Maybe I'd understand it if it was his only Pokémon, but still, it's pretty weird. {{color|00DD00|--[[User:Bulbafan|Bulbafan]] 23:50, 28 September 2009 (UTC)}}

:Dragonite is most likely his only Pokémon that he uses during the tag battle. If it is, that's why Dragonite is by itself. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 02:29, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

::Does lance has a backsprite during the tag battle? if yes someone should upload it -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] 04:42, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Probably. If we don't have it, that just means somebody hasn't bothered or gotten around to uploading it. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 13:28, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
:::: Well, we sure have it now. : ) {{color|00DD00|--[[User:Bulbafan|Bulbafan]] 16:19, 20 December 2009 (UTC)}}

== Gen I Art ==

Is [http://img2.blogs.yahoo.co.jp/ybi/1/4c/ed/yukapoke_493/folder/34753/img_34753_4609905_3?1228488751 this] the full art of Lance from Generation I? The art for the other trainers that appear here are their official art from Generation I, but I have never seen this art for Lance (neither have I seen an official Gen I art for him). Does someone have a better picture and can someone confirm this image?--[[User:KurowaSan|KurowaSan]] 09:13, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
:That image appears to have been deleted. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 10:53, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, it seems like it was deleted. Uploaded [http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g255/sfirah/img_34753_4609905_31228488751.jpg here] now. --[[User:KurowaSan|KurowaSan]] 11:16, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
:Ok, I did a search for this picture and it really is Gen I Sugimori art for Lance. This picture was taken from a page of {{tt|ポケモンひけるかな？|Pokémon Hikerukana?}} (Can You Play Pokémon?), a CD that came with a book containing music scores for the music from the game, which I didn't find an article about on Bulbapedia. Here it is for reference: [http://vgmdb.net/album/14883 English and covers], [http://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/yukapoke_493/4609905.html Info in Japanese], [http://item.rakuten.co.jp/geoeshop/400495402/ Some more info]. Unfortunately, I couldn't find a better picture. --[[User:KurowaSan|KurowaSan]] 12:35, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
::Found a better scan [http://img.f.hatena.ne.jp/images/fotolife/g/galboss/20100407/20100407212909.jpg here].[[User:KurowaSan|KurowaSan]] 00:47, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Sorry to bring this old topic up again, but it has been a time and there was no answer as to whether it would be a good idea to post this image, even if blocked by Blue's artwork, on the article. I think it's a pretty rare and official artwork for an important character. Thanks. o/ [[User:KurowaSan|KurowaSan]] 05:31, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

== Illegal Pokemon? ==

I don't understand this part at the Trivia section:
"Lance has battles with two illegal Pokémon" (Dragonite, Aerodactyl)
What does it mean with "illegal Pokemon", since when are there pokemon which are illegal to own? [[User:OMG|OMG]] 06:10, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
:It isn't that they are illegal to own, it's that they are impossible to obtain without the use of a cheating device - {{p|Aerodactyl}} can't learn {{m|Rock Slide}} in generation II and {{p|Dragonite}} can't learn {{m|Barrier}} in generation I, yet his Pokémon have those moves. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</sc> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 06:20, 28 May 2010 (UTC)


== Hair colour in Pokemon Adventures? ==

I always wondered this in PokeSpe why isn't Lance's hair the same colour as Silver's. I mean they both do have red hair and Lance's hair looks more blonde...is this trivia...though i'm sure there's a logical answer to this... [[User:CrystalMarina97|CrystalMarina97]]--[[User:CrystalMarina97|<span style="color:blue">Crystal</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:CrystalMarina97|<span style="color:blue">TALK</span>]])''</small> 22:16, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

==A new page==
Hey, I think we should make a separate page for him in Adventures, due to how different he is in that than in the games & anime. ----[[User:Desukaan563|<span style="color:blue">Desukaan563's userpage has a Value Formula to measure Pokémon worth</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Desukaan563|<span style="color:yellow">talk</span>]])''</small> 12:16, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
:Maybe, but he hasn't really done much in there....unlike Giovanni who actually needs one [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 14:05, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

== Lance uses wrong move in HG&SS? ==

If anyone's not noticed, he tells his Dragonite to use Hyper Beam on the Team Rocket dude inside the building in Mahogany Town, the Dragonite then runs into the guy? It looks more like Giga Impact.
Anyone care to explain? [[User:Miscs|Miscs]] 09:37, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
:I think they just weren't bothered to program in a mini Hyper Beam animation just for that one instance.  <small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' </small> 11:48, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
::I just watched a video of it on YouTube and I agree. It looks a lot more like Giga Impact than Hyper Beam. Trivia perhaps? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 12:36, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Could be worth mentioning. I'll put it in. (DONE, bit sloppy though, I can't think of how to describe it better :S) [[User:Miscs|Miscs]] 13:21, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

== Lance's Dragonite cheats! ==

Lance's Dragonite (LV 50) has Outrage. How is this possible?! [[User:Miscs|Miscs]] 14:54, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
:It's called breeding. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 14:57, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
:Or move tutoring. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 14:59, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
::{{DL|List of Nintendo event Pokémon in 2008|Saikyou Dragonite}}. But I'd be more worried about his level 40 Dragonite. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 15:02, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
::: Doesn't matter, I saw it on the move tutor list. I need glasses... [[User:Miscs|Miscs]] 15:08, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Well, that, and all you need is two pogeys with Outrage who can breed (one being a female of the Dragonite line) to get an Dratini egg with Outrage. So yeah, you can breed for it, too, since Dratini can learn it naturally. You just seemed to be a little confused on that, so just in case you still were. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 15:43, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::While true, Dragonair evolves at level 55. However, the event Dragonite I mentioned comes with Outrage. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 15:50, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::The part of the inquiry was not that Lance has a Dragonite at level 50, but that his level 50 Dragonite has Outrage, when Dragonite learns Outrage at 64. Lance with broken dragons is common knowledge; Miscs was focusing on the move, not the evolution. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 16:05, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

== Trivia addition? ==

When Lance is battled after obtaining 16 badges in Pokemon HeartGold and SoulSilver, all of his pokemon have a double weakness.  Might this be worth noting?
:Never mind.  I hadn't realized that this already existed.[[User:Tk3141|Tk3141]] 00:28, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

== Really minor ==

Can someone please replace "<nowiki>[[Super Nerd|Miles]] and [[Camper|Evan]]</nowiki>" for "<nowiki>{{tc|Super Nerd|Miles}} and {{tc|Camper|Evan}}</nowiki>"? Thank you. [[User:Duke R|'''<font color="#444" face="Lucida Sans Unicode">|) u |( e</font>''']] [[User talk:Duke R|'''<font color="#b00" face="Verdana">®</font>''']] 22:38, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
:Done. [[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]] 22:48, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

== HGSS sprite ==

Seems to have a bit of a glitch there in the first couple of frames. Is there a way to fix that? [[User:Okoa|Okoa]] ([[User talk:Okoa|talk]]) 23:41, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

== question ==

In the case of another elite four member, lorelei. The anime changed her English name to something that matched the number of syllables in order to match the mouth movements when her name was said. However, Lance's Japanese and English names also have a "syllable count" that doesn't match up. What's the dealio? --[[User:Benayla|Benayla]] ([[User talk:Benayla|talk]]) 04:40, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
:Wataru and Lance don't have nearly as much difference in mouth movements as Lorelei and Kanna do. Not even close. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 05:03, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

== Origins VA ==

Did some asking around; Bob Buchholz voice-directed the English dub of Pokemon Origins. After some double-checking, I believe he also voiced Lance for his few lines in the fourth episode. Not sure why Kirk was placed here by the internet, but I added the edit here.
[[User:Kirbopher|Kirbopher]] 2:19 AM PST 1/9/2016

== Should we mention the event Dragonite in trivia? ==

It's going to have Barrier in honor of Lance's Dragonite. See serebii.net [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 05:56, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

== Interesting Type Specialty ==

It is sort of weird how in Heartgold and Soulsilver during the player's first battle against Lance, the tag battle against Lance and Clair, and the tag battle alongside Lance (if you could count that), his Pokémon are not all part dragon, but they are all part flying-type. Just something interesting to think about. [[User:BetaRayquaza|BetaRayquaza]] ([[User talk:BetaRayquaza|talk]]) 14:46, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

== Lance's Blue Gyarados ==

Considering that the only time we saw Lance with a normal Gyarados is in a fantasy of a character who had never met him, what other proof do we have that he has a normal Gyarados? 
I mean, the anime has already shown in a fantasy Cynthia battling with a Rayquaza, and it wasn't even added to her profile in the anime. Is it not right to consider that Lance has only Red Gyarados and Dragonite?--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] 19:00, 30 January 2020 (GMT)
::Anyone?--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] 12:48, 09 February 2020 (GMT)

== Kind of a nitpick, but... ==

the button that lets you see his teams on the mobile version of the article (not sure about desktop) almost completely blends into the background. I had to turn my brightness up to be able to even slightly see it. Is there any way we could change either the background color or the button color? [[User:Aykrivwassup|Aykrivwassup]] ([[User talk:Aykrivwassup|talk]]) 02:57, 2 March 2025 (UTC)