Talk:Hoothoot (Pokémon)

A clock? Where'd that come from?--BJG

>It's horns appear to be hands of a clock.

In addition: "It has a perfect sense of time. Whatever happens, it keeps rhythm by precisely tilting its head in time." - Pokemon Silver

"It begins to hoot at the same time every day. Some trainers use them in place of clocks." - Pokemon Crystal

"HOOTHOOT has an internal organ that senses and tracks the earth's rotation. Using this special organ, this POKéMON begins hooting at precisely the same time every day." - Pokemon Ruby

- Zeta

Not the best place to ask I know, but I'm having a bit of difficulty uploading sprites for the article's sprite section

What the topic title said. I uploaded it successfully on Bulba achieves with the correct file name, Spr_b_g2_163.png. However the image still is not appearing in the sprite table... and well, I have absolute no knowledge in any of this. The sprite may be deleted from the archives, but I may as well know for the future. Eh, thanks for reading... -Mudkipchan 01:17, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Clear your cache. Or something. P: Tina ^δ♫ 01:18, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

You mean my 'cookies', I'm sorry if I am being an idiot here which I am probably being... :/ -Mudkipchan 01:24, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Artwork

It seems HootHoots artwork was one of the few Johto Pokemon to get an update during generation III as the pic says it's from FR/LG unless this is a mistake and this is actually newer (could it be from HG/SS? i don't keep track of every Pokemons artwork) If so i'm guessing this is the case with a few other Johto Pokemon artwork and they should be noted as well -- D558 15:51, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Ok maybe it isn't so few but i still think they might be noteworthy -- D558 16:00, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Number of Feet

Hoothoot only has one foot. Redstar 07:12, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Sigh. Check Hoothoot's Gold Pokédex entry before you start spouting. If a Pokémon can change feet, clearly it has more than one. --Oz 07:21, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

True, but I happen to have an interview where Ken Sugimori himself clearly states it only has one foot. Redstar 07:34, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

By all means, provide a link. --Oz 07:36, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Nintendo Power Vol. 134, Pg. 78 - Group Interview Pt. 1 Nintendo Power Vol. 134, Pg. 79 - Group Interview Pt. 2 - unsigned comment from Redstar (talk • contribs)

Well, it says it has one foot, but that could very well just mean that it has two, but only shows one foot(which is what Oz was saying) By the rest of what he said in that little part it would make more sense that he designed the legs directly after his bird which had two legs but only showed the one when standing. Plus the in-game Pokedex entries say it changes feet. (Yaminokame 08:32, 7 January 2010 (UTC))

He says "It only has one foot." That's definitive enough for me, and the rest indicates he created Hoothoot with "one leg" in mind, regardless if he later realized his pet bird had two. It was the memory that inspired him, so he created it. It should be noted that Ken designed the lion's share of the Pokémon at the time, while others did the actual programming and making of the game. It's simple enough to assume the actual game developers didn't realize his intention, so misrepresented the Pokémon. This later forced Game Freak to "recognize" two legs. However, is the notion of two legs present in the Japanese 'Dex entry?

Basically, we should at least mention the discrepancy in the trivia section. Redstar 08:44, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

In the song Which One ~ Is It?: "Is Hoho's leg the left or right one?" Also I've personally seen both of Hoothoot's feet. I can't remember were. Probably the anime. But I definitely saw them. --ケンジのガール 08:46, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

That song debuted nearly ten years after Gold and Silver were released, let alone how much longer beforehand Ken designed Hoothoot. How many feet it has now isn't the issue, but how many it was intended to have/once had. Redstar 08:49, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Well that's not what you were implying when you first started this conversation.

"It's simple enough to assume the actual game developers didn't realize his intention, so misrepresented the Pokémon."

No. We don't "assume" things on Bulbapedia. That alone means it's speculation. For all you know, he was speaking Japanese when he was interviewed and the translator made an error. --ケンジのガール 08:58, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

I wasn't implying anything, actually. And don't start the whole "It's speculation", "He was mistranslated" bull. It's speculation to assume the creature was always intended to have two legs, which is contradicted by this direct statement from the creator of that specific Pokémon. We must investigate all avenues before dismissing plain facts. Redstar 09:01, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

：：：：：：：：：：：：It has two feet. Always has. Always will. Ta dah. TTEchidna 09:06, 7 January 2010 (UTC)