Talk:List of American region Nintendo Network event Pokémon distributions in Generation VI

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split

Only torchic is wi-fi. the rest should be moved to a new page (local English etc). -Pokeant (talk) 12:36, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Agreed. Pikachu Bros. (talk) 14:38, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
A private discussion between me and SnorlaxMonster led to the decision that events available by serial codes will be listed on this page. Serial code events require Wi-Fi to verify the serial code, so they are actually obtained via Wi-Fi. In addition, language divisions aren't being implemented for Generation VI (since the language is selected at the start of the game). Therefore local English (along with the other European languages) most likely won't be used as pages for Generation VI (Japanese and Korean can stand for both the language and region). Lady Ariel 16:09, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
The games classify them as two different times of Mystery Gifts, "Wi-Fi" (if I recall correctly) and "Code". That was my reasoning for agreeing. Pikachu Bros. (talk) 17:07, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
After an additional discussion, the serial code events will be moved to separate page for serial code events. In addition, we are working on determining the 3DS region divisions for more accurate page separations. I plan on creating the serial code page sometime this week. Lady Ariel 17:36, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
What exactly do you mean by region divisions? I have a list of locations (countries) settable in 3DSs belonging to different regions if that's helpful. Tiddlywinks (talk) 17:44, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
The current plan for the events in Generation VI is to divide them by the regions the 3DS uses (Japan, USA, Australia, Europe, Canada, Korea, and Taiwan). That table appears to have mostly everything we need. Lady Ariel 19:43, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Tough Pinsir Gender, Atk IV and Ball

The article indicates its a male, but I received a female Pinsir with Mold Breaker in a Cherish Ball and 31IVs on its Atk stat.Yamitora1 (talk) 07:14, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

It also has an event ribbon and says I met it at "a lovely place" Yamitora1 (talk) 07:17, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Tough distribution IVs

So do the Heracross and Pinsir both come with perfect Atk IVs?

The Pinsir I received IVs are HP 18-19, Atk 31, Def 23, Sp.Atk 24, Sp.Def 30, Speed 14

Did anyone else receive either a perfect Atk IV Pokémon? If so, shouldn't the IV thing be mentioned on the article? Yamitora1 (talk) 19:44, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

I checked their Wonder Cards, and it looks like you just got lucky. Their IVs are random. --SnorlaxMonster 07:55, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
So basically even if its called a Tough Pinsir, it is its nature and not its IV(s) that are what makes it tough? interesting. Yamitora1 (talk) 00:40, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Gen VI models/template

It occurred to me that we do actually have X/Y models now, so we really shouldn't need to be using a:File:Spr 5b 000.png as a placeholder for any Gen VI Pokemon like the Spooky Pumpkaboo. So why have we not updated these Gen VI event distro pages to use the models yet? (Not that I can't think of any reason, I just wonder what staff have considered (and perhaps concluded) so far.) Tiddlywinks (talk) 00:53, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Generation VI models are simply too large for the template currently in use. We're looking at options with a new template, which would be able to either use the models or official artwork. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 01:14, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
Okay. FWIW, it's certainly possible to "crop" images. I played around previously and found a way to manage it using wiki code. To wit:
test 2
Spr 6x 025 m.png
more
Bigger Pokemon start to overflow the above if just plugged in, but...well, that certainly can be solved, though I'm not sure what the best solution is.
I haven't actually tried playing with that directly in the current event template, but I half suspect it may work a little better as HTML code instead (and if the code will be hidden away in a template, that may be just fine). Tiddlywinks (talk) 01:56, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
I'm aware that image cropping is doable, but it has its flaws that aren't really template friendly. The best option will likely be converting Generation VI events to this new template, which uses artwork files rather than the models. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 06:45, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Hope Diancie

Is it known why its called hope diancie/has the OT hope? is that a reference to the hope diamond, and if so shouldn't that be mentioned on the article? Yamitora1 (talk) 14:28, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Dates

So its okay to lie to people! I got the shiny Rayquaza on both games... ON THE 11TH of August. screw the official page if the distribution started a day earlier.
DarienLeonhart (talk) 19:43, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

We are not lying to people, since in much of the world when it went online it was actually August 12, 2015 (which is what the official site says). All Wi-Fi and Nintendo Network events can legitimately be obtained the day before in many locations, and in some locations they are obtainable after the end date. This is the reason why time zone differences are noted in the introduction on all Wi-Fi and Nintendo Network event pages. Lady Ariel 20:29, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
Then it should be mentioned here as well about time zones and all that jazz. Bulbapedia always claims they post accurate information. Well, posting full information is tantamount to accurate information.
DarienLeonhart (talk) 21:12, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
First, Darien, you need to calm down, no one lied. Secondly, it is mentioned right at the top of the page, second line:
As Nintendo Network events are run simultaneously worldwide, to ensure that the event runs for the entire specified period in most countries, the distribution begins at midnight on the start of date according to NZST and ends at midnight at the end of the day after the end date according to NZST.
--Spriteit (talk) 06:04, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
If there's one thing I dislike... It's people telling me to calm down. Especially since I'm always calm. Being calm or not has nothing to do with speaking my mind. What good are talk pages if you're just going to shoot down anyone trying to discuss or TALK about something. Besides, do you think every person reading/visiting Bulbapedia reads the top? I don't. Because the information I want isn't at the top. It's in the article of the page I visit. And I am saying that it should be mentioned as needed in the article... in my opinion. I don't know if you're an admin or moderator Spriteit, but whether you are or aren't... Telling someone to calm down isn't an admin or moderator's job since calming down or not has nothing to do with violating any rules on Bulbapedia. So, in the future, don't tell people to calm down. Just say what you need to say, for example: "It is mentioned at the top of the page, second line:" and so on... without mentioning a person's emotional state or the need to calm down.
DarienLeonhart (talk) 06:28, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
Calm down. The top of the page is normally the first thing you see of a page. It's the most visible. Information that applies to the entire page should be made most visible and not repeated a thousand times. glikglak 10:09, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
Just because it's at the top of the page doesn't make it the first thing I see... And stop telling me to calm down. Like I already said, You can relay your message WITHOUT telling someone to calm down. I'm not violating any policy by voicing my opinion therefore you have no business telling me to calm down.
DarienLeonhart (talk) 17:38, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
We put notes at the top of the page if they apply to the entire page. If you are confused by a certain aspect of the page, it's always a good idea to check the start of it. Anyway, if you have an alternate suggestion for how to note how the listed dates relate to timezones, we can discuss that an evaluate if it is more effective. --SnorlaxMonster 01:45, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

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Actually, yes I do have an idea. Using the most recent distribution as an example:

#384 Rayquaza ShinyVIStar.png 
Cherish Ball summary IV.png Level 70 384Rayquaza.png
Type:
Dragon Flying
Ability: Air Lock
Held item: Dragon Fang Dragon Fang
ID: 08055
OT: Galileo
Met: a lovely place (fateful encounter)
Nature: Random
Ribbon: Classic Ribbon Classic Ribbon
Dragon Ascent
Flying Physical
Dragon Claw
Dragon Physical
Extreme Speed
Normal Physical
Dragon Dance
Dragon Status
Games Method Region Location Duration
ORAS Nintendo Network American online Aug 12 to Sept 14 (Aug 11 to Sept 13 Americas), 2015
Moves in bold can be taught again at the Move Reminder as a special move if forgotten.
Date received is the receiving system's date when the Wonder Card is received.
This Pokémon is set to the same language as the game that received it.

or whatever you want to call it in the ( ) United States, Americas, Western Hemisphere... And like I said already... I only look for the information I want and if something confuses... I say so on the discussion/talk page of an article. That is how I do things and I will not change just because some bureaucratic pencil pusher thinks I should. I am who I am, regardless of what others think of me.
DarienLeonhart (talk) 02:01, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

That looks pretty terrible to me. (No offense. I'm just speaking my mind, like you, DarienLeonhart. =P )
Honestly, if anything, "Duration" should probably just be changed to "Duration (NZST)". If there are some cases where NZST might not apply, then you could easily make a flag for it.
That said, IMO it's not "necessary" to change anything. The status quo has been fine so far. I'm not inclined to be super charitable for someone who's declared they're averse to learning. Tiddlywinks (talk) 03:30, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
I was asked to offer a suggestion and that's what I did. I never said it was a good one or a bad one but it gives ideas and a place to start. But now that I look at it, it says "American" as the Region of the Distribution... so if the start date of August 12 is in the eastern hemisphere, it shouldn't say American. But since it does say American, it should have the distribution dates as they are in the Americas. There fore, the dates should match GMT of the distribution region... in this case, Americas. Regardless of what it may or may not say at the top of the article page.
Averse to learning!? looks like an insult to me. And I'm pretty sure insulting others is a violation of Bulbapedia policy. Besides, choosing to only read what I want to read is not a learning issue. It's a choice of free will. My choice. I choose to read only what I am looking for and nothing else. For example, distribution information for a specific event Pokémon which is located in the main article under the section title of that event Pokémon. The information for that event pokémon is not located at the top of the article but below the table of contents and that is where I will look in the example of this article.
DarienLeonhart (talk) 03:38, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
That refers to the game cart's region, not the physical location. glikglak 03:46, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
Then shouldn't it say something about that instead of saying "region" I honestly have no idea you mean by game cart region. Regardless, Region suggests a physical area, in this case. the Americas, where Nintendo 3DS/DS console systems are registered can receive the event Pokémon? So if it's not a physical area, then it should say something other than Region.
DarienLeonhart (talk) 03:50, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
"Region" is the technical term used by the video game industry. The best we could do is add "game" after it in the title but I think the titles are bordering on gobbledy-gook already. glikglak 04:03, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
The timezone line is only at the top of the article because it concerns everything about the article. It doesn't just concern that one event. Yes, you are only going to see what's underneath it because it's all there, but that doesn't mean you should not check the whole page to see if you missed something. As for the suggestion, the brackets just makes the section look too crowded. Now, I wouldn't mind if it were to use the tt template.--ForceFire 04:20, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
Saying "game region" for a Pokémon game makes me think Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, etc, so I don't think that's what they mean. I said it once and I'll say it again. I only care to read the information I'm looking for. If I get confused by something, I will ask on the discussion page. I already said it was only a suggestion. Maybe someone can find a way to make it look better. I am not going to read a whole article page when the information I want is located in one spot. As for missing something. If I got the information I wanted, why would I continue reading the article if I have what I came for?
DarienLeonhart (talk) 04:39, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
You found the information you wanted, great. Now, you are confused because there is no mention of timezones, that's when you should re-check the whole article just in case. I am not disagreeing with your suggestion, I'm suggesting a solution so it doesn't look crowded.--ForceFire 07:39, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

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I already said that If I am confused about something, I will bring it up and ask in the discussion page of the article. I never said my suggestion was a final suggestion. I said it was a starting point and if someone wants to improve on it, then go ahead. Again you're putting words in my mouth. Stop it already.
DarienLeonhart (talk) 17:56, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

In this instance game region is referring to the game cart, such as the Pal and NTSC (see Regional lockout). For example, I have friends from America who own American 3DS's and American copies of Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire. As a result they can access these events despite living in Australia because they are distributed by the Nintendo Network, and moving to another country does not change the Nintendo Network to which your 3DS and games are linked. They are controlled by where you bought the product. So my friends could activate this event anywhere in the world, as long as it was August 12 in NZST. These events are based on your game cart's Nintendo Network, not your physical location in the world and is why the events are based off NZST, and not an American time zone (as mentioned at the start of the article). --Spriteit (talk) 14:45, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
Game region still doesn't work because regardless of how you describe it, I will always think of game region in reference to Pokémon as referring to Kanto, Johto and so on. What you are describing is the console or system region where it was registered, not game region.
DarienLeonhart (talk) 04:47, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
The country where the console/system is registered in is exactly what game region means. The game is the console/system whilst the region is the country you're in. Whilst I get what you mean, this article refers to the real world, not the in game world. So one should be able to separate the two meanings of "Region".--ForceFire 04:58, 16 August 2015 (UTC)