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:It doesn't matter whether it's Happiny or Ledyba, they both have the minimum Defense of 4 at level 1 as you can test in the games or calculate.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 17:08, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
[http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/696959-pokemon-x/67632721 All this being said, a user on GameFAQs seems to have trumped this with Swampert.] [[User:TheVictoryStar|TheVictoryStar]] ([[User talk:TheVictoryStar|talk]]) 10:03, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
==Victini max damege==