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Talk:Shuckle (Pokémon)

1,675 bytes added, 09:45, 22 October 2016
Damage trivium: is it worth keeping?
My point is: are we really confident enough in this trivium's truth that we can include it on this page or any other? Have any of us ''actually'' calculated out all these scenarios? And even if both of the above were true... we're not a strategy guide or online battling sim, so our mission statement only sort of tangentially includes such esoteric numbers. Is there a convincing reason to include a trivium we're not 100% sure on the validity of, beyond "people seem vaguely interested by it"? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:07, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
:I believe you're mixing two largely independent topics here. I will share my thoughts on both of them:
:* On notability: I believe Trivia doesn't need to be as ''notable'' (or whatever you wanna call it) as information at any other section, so to say. I wouldn't necessarily have ''included'' the damage information myself, but I see no reason to remove it ''based on lacking notability''. I believe it might be ''notable trivia'' (or more accurately, I wouldn't wanna call it ''unnotable trivia'').
:* On reliability/accuracy: I guess if you question the reliability of that statement, you should be able to state why, to prove it wrong; if you can't do that (or don't want to), you need to treat it as reliable.
:And another (personal?) note: You (Pumpkinking) recently [[Special:Diff/2521545|removed]] a calculation at {{m|Ice Beam}}, quoting {{u|Force Fire}} who removed it here at Shuckle [[Special:Diff/2445690|once]], saying "We are not a strategy guide. This is all that needs to be said." I definitely agree to the first sentence, and I {{tt|possibly agree|read: I'm unsure myself, but someone else is/was sure}} to the second one ''for the Shuckle article''. If you remove the calculation from Bulbapedia entirely, you basically refuse to give readers an explanation (which basically makes some kind of unsourced claim, causing Unowninator and possibly others to be confused); someone (apparently) "did the math", you just removed it. (And that was actually the point why I included the link to Ice Ball, cause at the time I did that, the whole calculation was there.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 09:45, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

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