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[[User:AD Troller Shedinja|AD Troller Shedinja]] ([[User talk:AD Troller Shedinja|talk]]) 02:49, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
:No, because Shuckle would use Defense Curl and then Rollout 5 times with the item Metronome, giving you a 47x powerful Rollout, even before the crit, stat raise/lowers, Sunny Day-->Flower Gift twice, two Helping Hands, Pure/Huge Power with Power Swap, STAB, 614 Attack from Power Trick, and the 4x weakness and crappy defense of Lv. 1 Combee/Yanma/Ledyba. --[[User:MawileCeyvis|MawileCeyvis]] ([[User talk:MawileCeyvis|talk]]) 03:46, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
:I may have missed something, but I calculated that even with a Fire Gem, that'd only be around twelve million damage. Nothing compared to the Shuckle. --[[User:WyndFox|<span style="color:#992232">Wynd</span>]] [[User talk:WyndFox|<span style="color:2B65EC">Fox</span>]] 04:54, 7 January 2014 (UTC)